Re: thoughts on forum tag order

I was looking at some tag-point related code today and noticed that the actual forum tags themselves are different than the ones from the old forum.  Here's the current list and point requirements:

250:  Imperial Legend
220:  Imperial Commander
195:  Imperial Warrior
170:  Imperial Fighter
145:  Imperial Defender
125:  Universal Legend
105:  Universal Commander
90:  Universal Warrior
75:  Universal Fighter
62:  Universal Defender
50:  Galactic Legend
40:  Galactic Commander
32:  Galactic Warrior
25:  Galactic Fighter
20:  Galactic Defender
15:  Solar Legend
10:  Solar Commander
5:  Solar Warrior
3:  Solar Fighter
1:  Solar Defender

0:  Player

-1:  Solar Waste Collector
-6:  Galactic Space Junk Dealer
-13:  Universal Tax Auditor
-21:  Dirty Politician
-30:  "Quantum Idol" Reject

And here's the list from the old forum:

316:  Universal Conqueror
281:  Universal Emperor
251:  Universal King
231:  Universal Lord
201:  Universal Warrior
171:  Galactic Conqueror
151:  Galactic Emperor
124:  Galactic King
101:  Galactic Lord
89:  Galactic Warrior
71:  Solar Conqueror
56:  Solar Emperor
43:  Solar King
32:  Solar Lord
23:  Solar Warrior
16:  Planetary Conqueror
11:  Planetary Emperor
7:  Planetary King
4:  Planetary Lord
1:  Planetary Warrior

0:  Player

-1:  Used Spaceship Salesman
-6:  Galactic Lawyer
-13:  Trans-Cosmic Proctologist
-21:  Sub-Ethereal Talk Show Host


I always had the feeling something was different about the new system.  Then I saw this today and thought "holy crap, the 'planetary' tag group!".  I forgot all about those ones.

Anyway, the negative tags are also completely different and for each group we went from:

warrior -> lord -> king -> emperor -> conqueror

to

defender -> fighter -> warrior -> commander -> legend

What are you guys' thoughts on this?  If you had to choose between the two lists, which would you prefer?  If you didn't have to choose, would you combine the lists or make your own?

I know this isn't a huge feature or anything, but it's one of those little touches I always liked about IC.  I want to promote tag points a little more around the forums as a way to reward contributing players.  I think revisiting the list is a minor, but still important step in doing that.

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Re: thoughts on forum tag order

I like the current ones. smile

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Re: thoughts on forum tag order

wheres genesis?

until he pays me all those points he owes me, i wont care tongue

Re: thoughts on forum tag order

old

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old

[13:43] <@RisingDown> never thought i'd say it, but TBO actually did something useful.
[13:43] <@arsy> dont let him see you say that
[13:43] <@RisingDown> oh shit
[13:43] * You were kicked from #room by arsy (kapow!)

Re: thoughts on forum tag order

how do i get negative points X(

at least -1 smile not IC_death lol

Rchie

Re: thoughts on forum tag order

Its all in the FAQ Rchie big_smile

[13:43] <@RisingDown> never thought i'd say it, but TBO actually did something useful.
[13:43] <@arsy> dont let him see you say that
[13:43] <@RisingDown> oh shit
[13:43] * You were kicked from #room by arsy (kapow!)

Re: thoughts on forum tag order

I also like the current one.

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Re: thoughts on forum tag order

> TheBigOne wrote:

> Its all in the FAQ Rchie big_smile

Note: the so-called "negative" tags can NOT be acquired by showing negative behaviour. Rather start a good thread in the Roleplay forum or somewhere else and you might get the honour wink


a "good" thread to get negative tag ? sad
a "helpful" thread to get positive tags sad

Rchie

Re: thoughts on forum tag order

Yeah... I want to revisit that as well.  It's pretty confusing.

What I'm thinking instead is that we can replace "negative tags" with "evil tags" which would be a set of tags that go alongside the current positive tags.  Then leave it up to the individual players to decide if they want their forum tag to fall on the good or evil scale.

To me, "negative points" should serve a more functional purpose.  Like if you get too many negative points in a single thread, you can't reply to it anymore.

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Re: thoughts on forum tag order

yea I agree big_smile

should be something like that smile

Rchie

Re: thoughts on forum tag order

> I like pie wrote:


To me, "negative points" should serve a more functional purpose.  Like if you get too many negative points in a single thread, you can't reply to it anymore.




+1

[13:43] <@RisingDown> never thought i'd say it, but TBO actually did something useful.
[13:43] <@arsy> dont let him see you say that
[13:43] <@RisingDown> oh shit
[13:43] * You were kicked from #room by arsy (kapow!)

Re: thoughts on forum tag order

So i'm thinking this as a combination of both lists, but with a new requirement scale.  The 5 "evil" tags are alternatives to the "legend" tags.


1: Planetary Defender
3: Planetary Fighter
6: Planetary Warrior
10: Planetary Commander
15: Planetary Conqueror
21: Planetary Lord
28: Planetary King
36: Planetary Emperor
45: Planetary Legend / Space-Junk Dealer
55: Solar Defender
66: Solar Fighter
78: Solar Warrior
91: Solar Commander
105: Solar Conqueror
120: Solar Lord
136: Solar King
153: Solar Emperor
171: Solar Legend / Used-Spaceship Salesman
190: Galactic Defender
210: Galactic Fighter
231: Galactic Warrior
253: Galactic Commander
276: Galactic Conqueror
300: Galactic Lord
325: Galactic King
351: Galactic Emperor
378: Galactic Legend / Trans-Cosmic Proctologist
406: Universal Defender
435: Universal Fighter
465: Universal Warrior
496: Universal Commander
528: Universal Conqueror
561: Universal Lord
595: Universal King
630: Universal Emperor
666: Universal Legend / Sub-Ethereal Talk Show Host
703: Imperial Defender
741: Imperial Fighter
780: Imperial Warrior
820: Imperial Commander
861: Imperial Conqueror
903: Imperial Lord
946: Imperial King
990: Imperial Emperor
1035: Imperial Legend / Imperial-Conflict Enthusiast

Thoughts?

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Hmmmm, looks good pie

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awesome! I may be dead before getting anywhere near Imperial though. smile

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actually... Galactic will be a stretch too lol. wink

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> ~* Forever

Rchie

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If I had ALL my tagpoints I might have 180...

But man.... server crash, blocked account issue (long story), forum wipe, and hacker attack has cost me...

Lol


But I like them both

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Re: thoughts on forum tag order

We discuss atm a lot of things around the Tag Points.

Lots of nice ideas , what can be worked out and will be an awesome improvement for IC on itself.

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Re: thoughts on forum tag order

Well, part of the idea is that we and the forum mods take a more active role in rewarding players for good posts.  So tag points would go out a lot more frequently, making those far off tags not so far away.

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And it's live!

Also, yes I know the FAQ is not updated for this.  We're in the process of transitioning into a new FAQ that is easier for the mods to edit.  These changes will be included in that project.

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Re: thoughts on forum tag order

Suggestion: The place at the bottom right where you show awarded tag points for a post should be a different font than the rest of the post. Perhaps even a different colour. Maybe blue or green for positive tag points and red for negative.

Also, I don't like 'Imperial-Conflict Enthusiast'
The last acheivable negative tag should be something cool tongue

Re: thoughts on forum tag order

haha.  i liked that the highest evil tag was one that shows you like IC, but i'm open to suggestions =P

interesting idea about the colors.  the tricky thing is punbb supports various themes, so we'd have to make sure the colors work well everywhere.  i'll keep this in mind though, thanks

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24 (edited by You_Fool 15-Aug-2012 20:23:55)

Re: thoughts on forum tag order

Now you have changes, what happens to our old tags since the points to achieve levels have changed...


Edit:
The answer is I now have a crappy tag... Surely the points should have been converted?

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Re: thoughts on forum tag order

To be honest I didn't take conversion into account as I should have.  Now that I think about that, it makes sense that on the old system each point was worth a higher % than each point is on the new system.  That definitely should be accounted for.

Let's see... the old scale was 1 - 250 so 1% was 2.5 points.  The new scale is 1 - 1035 which makes 1% 10.35 points.

I think I can work that into a conversion easy enough.

Thanks for mentioning this.

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