Re: Is this what IC is?

First of all, let me state i care fornication all about my planets, i am playing semi-actively in a family in pw i randommed into and liked.

But now this happens.
Lee's family (or whoever is leading it) raids my fam for a bunch of planets, not a tactic i'd use at SOR, but fair play, it happens. Then Lee comes to our chatroom saying that if we don't pay up 50 planets (out of the 300 we have) for a pnap, we're going to get wave 2 of the raid within 3 ticks.

Surely this is not what IC is these days?
If it is, no wonder we're not getting any new players... Don't you people realize that behaviour like this is killing the game?

Why not play decently. Hell, I wouldn't even have cared that much if you had taken the 50 planets, or even a 100, and then offered a nap for free. But "give 50 planets or you're dead" is just frickin low...

NEE NAW NEE NAW

Primo

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Also, this is not a Lee bash. I don't know, I have played with Lee in the past, and if i recall correctly he's a somewhat good guy and we got along well.
I'm sure this is a do it, or get it done to you kinda deal. But still, sheesh...

We really need a code of honour and some leaders that are willing to maybe risk a round to enforce it.

NEE NAW NEE NAW

Primo

3 (edited by Lee 19-Jul-2012 10:49:43)

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we raided you for 30 planets, which u retook immediatly.

we resent raid fleets a further 60 fleets on ur top banker.

before we was triggering we decided to come to ur chat:

we made an offer of a pnap for 40 planets, and ur fam agreed to 39 and a naked photo of TBO.

whats the problem here primo, really.

"Why not play decently. Hell, I wouldn't even have cared that much if you had taken the 50 planets, or even a 100, and then offered a nap for free. But "give 50 planets or you're dead" is just frickin low..."

i said no such thing.

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Lee gets away with this because fams are willing to pay him comp. If families start standing up to his tactics, sooner or later he'll realize that BoR raiding won't be a +EV tactic.

Man is condemned to be free; because once thrown into the world, he is responsible for everything he does. --Sartre

5 (edited by Teddy[M] 19-Jul-2012 10:48:29)

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I agree, there used to be a code of honour that ppl followed to the letter. I would be willing to enforce a code of honour next round into my fam, without a problem.

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55 was skirmishing with us before that. It's not like that raid came out of nothing.

What we actually ask for a nap is raid spoils (only 30 planets...) + an extra 9, is that so unreasonable?

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who the hell gives free pnaps anyway

wtf!!

its exactly how DS said it is, been skirmishing a few days, we raid, they retake, we decide to re raid but make a nap offer in the proccess.

nothing to see here.

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its not the raid im complaining about.
take planets or dont take planets, but dont do this...

NEE NAW NEE NAW

Primo

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Yeh attacks been going on for days, untill we had enough, raid 30 planets only, its not much.

We even come to discuss a nap before we triggered second wave, i know this sounds like threatening, but heck else it wouldve been war. I think we played it fair, we gave you a second chance.

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So you'd rather have us raid another 100 and then have one of your bankers delete from the family because he cant handle losing some planets, instead of pnapping for a reasonable payment? It's just simple diplomacy, and has always been part of the game.

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It isn't.
I have never ever ever demanded planets for a nap. Ever.
And I can't remember BoR raids in my early days either. You fought, you won or lost, you went on with the round.

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Primo

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who demanded? we made a nap offer ur fam accepted it.

u know we was all having a laff and joke about it

then you joined in the conversation and it went from fun to serious in 0.01 seconds.

ur fam didnt want to lose another 100 planets, and we didnt want to take another 100 either.

but we wasnt going to nap for free, there has to be some comp involved. period.

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> Lee wrote:

> who demanded? we made a nap offer ur fam accepted it.

u know we was all having a laff and joke about it

then you joined in the conversation and it went from fun to serious in 0.01 seconds.

ur fam didnt want to lose another 100 planets, and we didnt want to take another 100 either.

but we wasnt going to nap for free, there has to be some comp involved. period.

Lee your english is getting as bad as Aleph's tongue.

Man is condemned to be free; because once thrown into the world, he is responsible for everything he does. --Sartre

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he's picking it up from Aztek x(

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If you dont want to take planets anymore, THEN DONT
noone is forcing you to.

i dont see why we should pay for that.

NEE NAW NEE NAW

Primo

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Its a gift, for us being so friendly, not a payment.

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> Doobie wrote:

> Thats IC, u cant play a round where everyone wins.... Someones gotta lose planets. It just happened to be your family Primo.
Might as well start a new game called 'Imperial Peace' if you all want to win...

He's not asking for everyone to be winning. "This isn't Imperial Peace/banking is such a vacuous argument". There is literally no meaning in it. We know that there are winners and losers. However, some believe in winning at any cost while others respect the need for a code of ethics.

Man is condemned to be free; because once thrown into the world, he is responsible for everything he does. --Sartre

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Purin you dont even know what your talking about here,

Like i said it was a gift, not a payment, heck we even get a naked picture big_smile

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interval

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qimiWfZAtXw

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i give out free pnaps. i did these last round whilst in a #1 fam. in the end we lost out to people who farmed/beat down little fams. so you can't win without doing this. my last round proved this as i went nice on fams and gave them decent naps.

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> flyingreindeer wrote:

> Purin you dont even know what your talking about here,

Like i said it was a gift, not a payment, heck we even get a naked picture big_smile

I don't know what I'm talking about? How about you learn to spell first bro. You're not your

Man is condemned to be free; because once thrown into the world, he is responsible for everything he does. --Sartre

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We are giving a decent nap. /me retires from this thread.

What a load of bs

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> Purin wrote:

> > flyingreindeer wrote:

> Purin you dont even know what your talking about here,

Like i said it was a gift, not a payment, heck we even get a naked picture big_smile

I don't know what I'm talking about? How about you learn to spell first bro. You're not your


Awesome argument.

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> flyingreindeer wrote:

> > Purin wrote:

> > flyingreindeer wrote:

> Purin you dont even know what your talking about here,

Like i said it was a gift, not a payment, heck we even get a naked picture big_smile

I don't know what I'm talking about? How about you learn to spell first bro. You're not your


Awesome argument.

As awesome as your coherence

Man is condemned to be free; because once thrown into the world, he is responsible for everything he does. --Sartre

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purin what fam are you in? il be sure to raid you next.


cheers

bacon and eggs anyone?