Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

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"Now, I know every one of them is the political equivalent of a rabid animal."

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Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

I know that some people need to be punished and I am willing to punish them

I tell that to libertarians and they get upset

Apparently they would like government to stop me

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Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

I am starting a new term, based upon the Political Compass, for Libertarians. They are not the left, they are not the right, they are the bottom.

The Bottom was outraged today when they found Rand Paul had endorsed Mitt Romney. For those with Facebook you can have a lot of laughs at expense of Bottom Politics on how they behaved.

I have more ammunition but let's watch someone from the Bottom open their mouths so I can shove their foot in it.

To the Bottom Wing!

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Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

These commentaries illustrate just how stupid most conservatives actually are.

Moral busy bodies...

Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

So your coming out as a Bottomer then? Enjoying the Bottom of Politics? I would guess as a losing political ideology you drink a lot, so do you self refer as 'Bottoms up!'?

Does being a part of the Bottom make your ideology gay? Do you like being trampled on as part of the Bottom? Does it bother you that the Right and Left are always going to win while your Bottom Politics come out on Bottom?

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Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

Naw, I'm quite content really... letting everyone else suffer the consequences of their own ignorance.

Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

sooooo you think people should be punished and you're not willing to punish them?

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9 (edited by Justinian I 09-Jun-2012 03:44:34)

Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

We have the state to punish criminals. I think you're confusing Libertarianism and Anarchism. Disagreements Libertarians have with Conservatives include:

1. A lot fewer behaviors should be considered criminal.
2. The free market knows best
3. The state should intervene in foreign affairs a lot less.

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I find your statism unsettling. The United States was founded by the vigilance committee, the sheriff's posse, the town militia

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Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

All of which are public services. Local government doesn't contradict anything I said.

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all of which are private citizens kicking ass because they volunteer to punish.

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I don't see how anything we said disagrees or how what I said amounts to statism.

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Well I was wondering if you were a Bottom, guess you are.

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Cowgirl sucks. I'm always afraid of this happening:

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16 (edited by V.Kemp 09-Jun-2012 21:29:10)

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I love how you think the bedroom police and warmongering for corporate interests are inherent virtues. Anyone with a brain must surely agree with you. Anyone who isn't a lackey for Republicans is a moron! You're SO SMART!

You're so gay you can't imagine that nobody gives a damn.

It's obvious you're threatened by Libertarians because they're actually fiscally conservative--whereas you only hypocritically claim to be--and they don't comfort you like a little bitch as "conservatives" do. Don't worry, little Einstein, we'll bomb and invade the bad people! You can take our word for it, we're competent and can handle this well! Don't study history, we'll call you crazy. Don't worry, little Einstein, we'll tell you that homosexuals are evil and God gives a damn. We'll help you repress those evil urges. Don't worry, little Einstein, we'll take care of you with Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Even if it means bankrupting them until they don't exist. Don't think about that, you'll probably be dead before then.

Pay the man. Shut up, you talk to much. You're just glad you have a big group to tell you you're right. Because the majority is always right. That's why America is so free and as economically prosperous as it could be. You're so juvenile that you need the intellectual validation. Good job, Republicans are doing a good job. Right up there with Eric Holder who they protect and Barack Obama who they obviously agree with on most things, as is obvious in their candidate Romney.

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Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

... Odd.

I think of the establishment Republicans and the tea party... I think the tea party is closer to Libertarians.  So, tea party folk are bottom dwellers?

I am going to take an arm chair psychologist guess on why you seem angry at libertarians.  I don't think its there ideology as compared to liberalism, libertarians are rocket scientists.  I think this is a poll issue.  If a Republican, Democrat and Libertarian are all running... the Republican and Liberatarian will usually split the conservative vote.  Hence instead of the republican winning 55% to 45% he would lose (35%rep,45%dem,20%L) kinda like how Clinton won the presidency without winning the over 50% of the vote.

Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

Actually Conservatives make up 40% of the nation, Liberals 20% undecideds 40%, and libertarians are below the margin of error.


Now party make up Libertarians account for 5% of the Republican Party where as the Tea Party could be as high as 40%.

Libertarians do try tricks to conquer from within occassionally and they try to take credit for Tea Party success but they as a group claim about 2% of the total of the Tea Party.


Note the Tea Party has about 5-10% of the Democrats and as high as 20% of undecideds according to poll information I have seen. Our ideology crosses party lines.



The occassional semi success of a Libertarian can also be from lack of votes for a lackluster candidate in Conservative eyes.

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19 (edited by V.Kemp 11-Jun-2012 02:41:27)

Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

BeoWolfe,

Yes, the Tea Party is rooted in Libertarian, not "conservative," principles. Their focus is on the Constitution and fiscal sanity, not bedroom and world policing.

I can't disagree that Libertarians tend to take more conservative than liberal votes (away from people who don't deserve them anyway). But there are certainly a significant number of more liberal minded people who vote Libertarian--as opposed to liberal--in just the same way. I don't have any numbers on the percentages, nor do I disagree it's probably more people would choose conservatives as the "lesser evil" given the choice of conservative or liberal. But they do exist.

Edit: They don't "take" conservative nor liberal votes. I worded that poorly. I just meant what I said in the second half of the above: Many libertarians see conservatives as the lesser of the two evils. They vote Libertarian because it best fits their views and values; and surely more would if they weren't sure, before most elections started, that the only feasible outcomes were Republicrat varieties. But many (not trying to argue a majority) also choose liberalism as the lesser of the two evils, because they take bigger issue with the bedroom policing and warmongering of conservatives vs the oversized nanny government of liberals. (In practice, of course, liberals are good warmongerers too--but they tend to give more lip service to not killing everyone and our kids)



Einstein,

Thanks for making up numbers. You always convince us that you're smart and educated when you make stuff up!

Yes, the majority is always right. Republicans and "conservatives" are so smart! There's more Republicans than Libertarians, so Republicans have better ideas. Just like there's more Communists than Libertarians, so Communists have better ideas. Thanks for enlightening us. Appeals to majorities aren't just fallacious reasoning when arguing/backing up your position, they're also a staple Einstein reasoning tool!

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Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

Yeah burden of proof on you.

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"Yes, the majority is always right. Republicans and "conservatives" are so smart! There's more Republicans than Libertarians, so Republicans have better ideas."

of course, if you WERE a horse's ass, you might see most people give you the finger too...confusing isn't it

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Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

100% of people would be Libertarian if they had brains, open minds, weren't intellectual cowards, cared about their fellow man, philosophy, and justice.

Burden of proof on you. Until you prove otherwise, I'm right? Your logic. Good call. I like it.

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Re: I love some Conservative commentary about Libertarians

oh no, I am right, period.  If logic fails to justify it, so much the worse for logic.  I don't pretend its a subject for debate anyhow, it's you lot who want to argue about it.

i studied medieval history, so I know about Peter Abelard, who thought he could go around arguing with clergy and proving not that he was better than clergy but that he knew the nature of God better.  Because he was a doofus he thought he could bang his boss's neice, and his boss decided that firing him wasn't good enough, so he had him castrated too.

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THE HUMANITY!

I banged the head of my first university's religious studies department's daughter for about 6 months. That's a little too close to home. I'm quite fearful now.

Good news is, times have changed. I carry. He's probably afraid of guns. I'm safe. For now.

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yeah even in Abelard's time the guy had to send thugs to do it for him

which back then was probably a fun assignment, but now it's kind of unlikely you can get 5 guys without one of them being a Fed

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.