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A lot of Americans are learning what a roommate of mine learned.

Let me cover the roommate. He was a high priced CNA working with the dangerous elderly... those with severe mental breakdowns that caused them to be a danger to themselves and others.

He loved tatoos and when I first moved in with them (after being homeless for a week, he had another roommate as well) he had them only in hidden places.

Over time he got them all over.. the final few on his neck, scalp, and knuckles. He was also spending compulsively on them and was keeping from me that he was late paying the rent sometimes (surprise surprise this bit me in the ass later that I gave him my portion of the rent) because he had over spent on a new tatoo.

Irregardless of his spending it was no surprise to me when he got fired.

He said it was trumped up and it probably was.


The problem is that most employers avoid obvious tatoo's because it can unsettle employees and customers.

You enter an interview with an obvious tatoo for a office job and statistics shows 9 out of 10 times you won't land a job if there is an equal or almost equal candidate without a tatoo.

Tatoo's may be interesting but showing one off may restrict your futute to less opportunities, less choices, and less income.

Worse... the cost of removing a tatoo is painful and expensive... take the price of the tatoo and multiply by 10.

The question is... why do we not educate children about these issues and help protect their future?

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I can't wait to finish my sleeves.

What can i say i'm just that good.

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Its why you quite often see people have their arm tattoos cut off at the wrist. Purely so when they wear a business shirt they are completely covered.

Ultimately it sounds like he had an addiction and it got out of hand. Alot of people struggle to comprehend that something like that can be addictive, and as you have seen first hand can be as damaging as other addictions.

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Isn't it up to the individual whether they want a tattoo or not? It is true that having visible tattoos may harm employment prospects but if the person going to get a tattoo knows that before going and still gets one, then that is their choice. If they don't know that having a tattoo could affect career options then they are naive, but it is still down to them whether they want them or not. I don't think it is up to the state or education system to "warn" people about tattoos, it is an individual's choice and doesn't affect anybody except the individual themselves

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maybe its where im from but i have seen more and more tattoos in the business place. Even ones that can be seen easily.  I know that some people are judging and simple minded as to base a job qualification on tattoos but it does happen.  I'm glad Lockheed Martin didnt care though haha.

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Funny Topic.......

Flint Question for you

If you had to choose an individual with both sleeves done as a doctor to save you're life

Would you care what is on his arms?


would you rather have a less experienced person do it without a tat?



Most jobs now are Not as bias on tat's and also in an interview if you where smart you would wear long sleeve and after the fact of hire you would show your tat if you are that scared of not landing the job. In addition i had an employer tell me i wasn't allowed to show of my tats.. That didn't last very long for them as i said i would sue for discrimination just as if i was black.

Yah guess who won that one? Not them......

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I don't think it is judging or simple minded. Tattoos do have certain connotations, by making the active choice of getting a tattoo the individual is accepting that they wish to have those connotations associated with themselves. An employer interviewing prospective employees is fully entitled to judge them by how they choose to present themselves and the things they have chosen to associate with themselves. It would be no different to judging them by the way they choose to dress themselves and the image they therefore project of themselves.

Of course, there are many professions where having a tattoo and the image that therefore portrays would not be detrimental and may in fact be beneficial.

Anyone adult is free to go get a tattoo if they want to, and that is the way it should be. But they also have to take responsibility for the consequences of the choice they have made.

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TBO, yes you are right attitudes towards tattoos are changing and they do seem to be becoming more commonplace and more acceptable.

In answer to your question I would be nervous about a doctor with two sleeve tattoos. Not because the tattoos affect how good the doctor is at their job but because of the connotations associated with tattoos and because the doctor has chosen to allow themselves to be associated with largely negative things.

being "discriminated" against because of tattoos is absolutely not the same as discrimination on the grounds of race. An individual does not choose their race so cannot possibly be judged accordingly. An individual does choose whether to have tattoos or not and therefore any judgement made on those tattoos is a judgement of the choices and character of the individual. An employer should also have every right to ask employees to cover their tattoos as the employee's appearance is a reflection on the image of the company and it is no different to any other part of a uniform or dress code policy.

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"because the doctor has chosen to allow themselves to be associated with largely negative things. "


So you think that tats are largely negative?
Didn't know this was 1970's and only drunken sailors have them.....

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@ sitting duck i know all about having to cover tattoos. In the military there were rules for it.  i understand dress code and being required to cover up my tattoos would be fine.  If someone isnt hired because the person hiring just doesnt like tattoos and generalizes all people into a group then they are simple minded.   

My tattoos are all dedicated either to family, those who have served, and my addictive muscle car hobby haha.  I do agree that it is a choice and you are responsible for your choices.

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I have been toying with an idea for a tattoo for a while now...was going to get it across my whole back, have a giant scroll, and on the top of the scroll it has a map of the world, and when I go to different countries in the world, i fill in parts of the map where I have been, and then write the places and dates underneath the map...it would certainly have personal value, and be kind cool to show people...it is something that will never change, doesn't really label me as anything, and can easily be covered up...

Now, to get out my fear of needles...

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Yakuza! He is mapping where he made his kills!

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women with tattoo's can be very hot but would they still looks so hot when they're old? no. that's why you need to stick to young women

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in US prison gangs use tattoos to identify themselves so facial or hand tattoos can have criminal meanings

I was thinking of a biohazard tattoo on my ass, because my ass is biohazardous, but somebody told me that is a symbol used by HIV+ gay men to idenify themselves to each other

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Unless that somebody was Gay themselves or a tattoo artist with an open mind, I wouldn't believe him Balszy.

Edit: And where I work, half the staff have tattoos and we are in retail. But then again, half the contractors that roll through are missing fingers and other parts so a tattoo isn't exactly that big of an issue, at least with the contractors.

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Re: Tatoo's in sight will prevent job opportunities

This just in: Duh.

Gotta wear long sleeves, even on hot days!

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Women with tattoos on their lower back look thrashy to me. But I guess I'd give them the job anyways cause they went that extra mile so I could see their tattoo in the first place

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BiefstukFriet, they don't call them tramp stamps for no reason.

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I literally just typed out something along the lines of what Alch just said (before reading on). This will suffice:

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Hahaha yeah, I think we were all getting in line for that response tongue

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