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"People should try to help themselves, not to rely upon others to help them. "

The main principle of capitalism is you have a few rich people exploiting a lot of poor people whose only chance in life is to survive.  For every car, for every yatch, for every expensive dinner, there are million of people starving in the other side of the world.

YOU flint or whatever your real name is, with you NAZI ULTRA CATHOLIC ideology, arent able to realize this happens and a energy of action-reaction in the world daily, or you realise and agree to it.

Every morning you wake up wirth your $600 in your pocket, from the very 1st second you're putting your foot on the floor, you must be AWARE that you are actually trampling millions people' lifes somewehre in the world

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So, because I've done well for my life, I have to bring myself down because there is somebody else that's not excelling to my level? I have to feel guilty for providing for myself before others, and trying to have a good life? I'm not selfish, but you cannot expect to save the entire world. As long as there is greed, and people are different, there will be people that will exploit others.

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Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

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"I would be willing to bet $3000 you would not last three months driving a big rig like me."

your job is a JOKE ok?  oh poor flint has to drive a truck, what a hell everyday he suffers

I'm not gonna brag here about the many times I got asleep at the wheel when driving home form work, tired and sleepy, this is not the place to talk about the many shitty jobs i have had in my life that reported me no real income, only the necessary to survive on and stay alive, I'm not gonna tell u about the difference of salaries between your 'hard' job and 90% of the job salary in my country.

I've had more than 30 different jobs in my life and not gonna let you know what it takes to be a man. IF you'd ever been the poor guy you say then you wouldnt be talking crap like you do, so please STFU

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Yes Render, but why did you keep working? Why did you keep trying to find better work for more income? If not to excel, or find a better means to better your life, then for what?

It's already been pointed out previously, that freight work is not the most difficult job in the world. I come from a family that does a lot of it, and it's not the easiest either. That I can personally attest to. Your points are turning into attacks, and removing all intelligence from this debate, because they are missing the basic fundamentals of what he posted.

Modestus Experitus

Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

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And you're making me defend Flint. For that, you should get 100 lashes! X(

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Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

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It's all relative.  I consider myself a hard worker, but I program for a living.  That said, I do have years of manual labor under my belt so I know that what I do now is not "hard" in that aspect.

Just the same, my brother is working two jobs right now and is actually less worked than when he was working three jobs.  I'll never work as hard as my brother has.

And with that said, my father came from nothing.  I mean, picking fruit as a child to save money to buy his mom eggs.  Even my brother will never work as hard as my father has.

And to your point Render, my father was never a literal slave.  So even he will never know that.

The point is, again it's all relative.  Render, I can understand why you think it is offensive that Flint thinks he is "working hard" but you have to understand that just because others have it far worse doesn't devalue the work that other, more fortunate people, are doing.

I think his message is simply the reward of hard work.  Of course it can't apply to everybody, and saying "you can do whatever you want if you work hard enough" is a bit romanticized, given that there are starving children out there who are dying as I type this.

But the message is coming from a good place.  If he isn't speaking for everybody, perhaps he is just speaking for lower to middle class citizens.  And in that regard, is it so wrong to want to offer encouragement to others?

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basic fundamentals??

lmao

where you see basic fundamentals I see NAZI trash, or either you are unable to read between the lines

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Jesus Christ Render you are a mentalist.

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Render they are starving whatever we do over here...and most of those places are poor because the head of the army will shoot anybody who tries to make money without paying him off.  And that's the organized places, many countries are full of factions of troops trying to shoot and burn their way to the point they can shoot anybody who tries to make money without a payoff.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Look at what happened in the Palestinian Authority under Arafat, they started robbing their own people, that's why Hamas got credibility as a party despite all the billions in Western aid

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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point by point

"Well ok I am merely middle class... but I will tell you... I have been poor and eating top ramen for dinner, bologni and bread for lunch, and macaroni and cheese for breakfast...."  ---> It is OFFENSIVE, I have only 1 food a day compared to the 3 foods he had when he was 'poor'.   Also I don't know a poor that has macaroni for breakfast, thats abusive, you are lucky if you have a single coffee and run to work X(


"I have a laptop worth more than my last three cars (and my current car, though I could buy better I do not see a need right now to do so), I can order pizza whenever I want and NOT ask about the price, I can buy video games as they suit my fancy (four this month alone), and... well you get the point."  ---> I get the point that you are a matherialist, also I hope you buy a lot of videogames and stick on them the whole day and dont come to IC anymore.


"I have a constant pocket cash of between $300 to $600 now..."  ---> Get a trip to Spain I will gladly release your pockets of such a heavy weight


"So why does it seem like I am bragging? Trust me I am not. "  --> its called self-psychology, you know you're writing crap and try to convince yourself you aint

"I am trying to show the benefits of hard work, and of chasing your dream. Being lazy is not a dream, nor is living day by day on crap food." ---> we all can see the benefits of your 'hard work' (because you have just bragged about it) but this DOES NOT MEAN everybody doing hard jobs is able to get a benefit, because most of the REAL hard jobs (that you cannot imagine) are slave-like jobs that only allow you to survive for a while until the job is over and you try to figure out what to do next to get food for your sons, because every single penny you won were spent on the way, you arent aware the salary of a waiter is 800

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Chris dont believe stream media, they tell you what they need for their interest and future wars.

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Render you are offensive to me.

This is about picking yourself up, with me giving a life example, which can apply to anyone who wants to try.

Anything that can better your situation should be looked at, don't flinch from the disgusting, the difficult, or the frustrating. That is the message.

This applies to those in Africa you say are starving. They can quietly forge alliances, make an effort to repulse criminals, bad governments, and bandits. Everyone needs to find it in themselves to better themselves, for I cannot better the inside of you except if you accept God from my teachings, gain knowledge from my words.

Were I to be rich and donate it all to your 'starving masses' they would eat for a day, then starve the next. They have made life choices which may not better themselves, or are under control of those I cannot influence.


For instance India and Brazil keep some tribes from gaining technology or consumer goods. These tribes use wood and stone because of the fate forced upon them by others. My words will not change this. Nor will your words.

Were I to raise an army I might be able to force brazil to change, were I to make nukes and place them then threaten to use them... India might change its policy.

But the reality is that even those tribes can better themselves. They can work to make better huts, copying the best made and studying new ideas. They can save spare food and work on irrigating lands.


You mock self sufficiency and the drive to improve oneself all together here.


Hard jobs indeed... my 70+ hour workweek fails to impress... well I have cleaned a sewer manhole (clogged from top to bottom, and smelly as all can be), I have cut a hedge of sticker bushes with a machette, I have been homeless three times and worked while homeless. In fact once I had two jobs while living out of a car whle I got my 2 year equivalency degree.

I think you just hate me, hate my Conservatism, hate my Activism, hate me for my success, and hate me for my existance. The irony of the bumper sticker "Co-Exist" never strays far from head. The very people who cry for diversity and kindness to others are the most intolerant when they see a Republican or a Conservative activist.

If you wish to better yourself then do so. Trucking pays well, very well in some regions. As do fishing fleets, oil field work, and more. My physical injury prohibits me from the fishing, the oil work, the steel work, and working a coal mine. What is stopping you?

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And Render... I have starved for days in a row. I tried not to paint to gloomy a picture since most here could not understand that when a roommate goes on a depression eating binge... and eats all the miniscule food you had planned for a week... you don't eat.

I have had to wear old security shirts cause I had nothing else to wear (2 regular shirts I kept for interviews).

I have washed laundry in sinks.

I have showered in gas station bathrooms using a hand cloth.

I have pushed a dead car 10 miles because I did not want it towed.

I have bicycled thirty miles to work and back a day.

I have slept on buses when homeless.

I have not had an easy life



You are unacceptable to me, you attack and do not question. You are unkind (being generous with that) and unjust.

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""Well ok I am merely middle class... but I will tell you... I have been poor and eating top ramen for dinner, bologni and bread for lunch, and macaroni and cheese for breakfast...."  ---> It is OFFENSIVE, I have only 1 food a day compared to the 3 foods he had when he was 'poor'.   Also I don't know a poor that has macaroni for breakfast, thats abusive, you are lucky if you have a single coffee and run to work "

America has food stamps
we have so much food stamps they have ads on the radio advertising food stamps
the govt is worried people who have a job and a car dont know they can get food stamps
they want more people on food stamps

600 rent and then utilities are another 200?  you are being robbed on utilities and something is wrong with your rental industry, are there govt controls against building more units or something?

Why are you so angry with him, even the communists said the same damn thing  "Each person is ultimately responsible for their own success, their own dreams, what they do to reach their dreams."
you think anybody got to bitch in Russia that Russia sucked and why bother and hey, when's lunch?
Why do some Europeans get born into the mix like you and then they make enough to have a house and you don't? Are they better than you?  Are you born worse than them?  Rising is always due to your own ambition to deliver something to somebody who will turn around and reward you more.  that is learned skill not given to you by a govt. 

"mainstream media"  I use the internet, I was a history / poli-sci major, I subscribed to National Geographic, I was taught by Leftists and the FACT of third-world strife and decay is not debatable...Idi Amin was not imposed on Uganda by CIA, Union of African States locks ranks around Mugabe despite US pressure and he is turning Zimbabwe into a desert; it was not CIA who had Hutu kill Tutsi,

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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adults are where we are because we make choices

you chose to be with your sons (350/month for kindergarten)

you chose to stay in Spain instead of emigrating to Norway or Britain to find work (Muslims do it, so there's some there)

us adults are where we are largely because of what we say is "non-negotiable"...the trick is to choose on purpose and feel good about what you choose

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

42 (edited by Justinian I 26-May-2012 00:13:51)

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Render,

You are out of line. You are one of those depressing persons who blame people for improving their own lives, rather than serving some twisted moral duty to uplift those whose lives are worse off. Self-interest is the only thing that has pushed the wheels of progress. Your values of self-sacrifice and equality cause poverty and suffering. They are the words of tyrants and their tools.

As ridiculous as I think Flint's ideas are, I have to acknowledge and credit him for his resilience. Others in his position would choose to mooch off welfare programs, but he decided that it wasn't worth living as a parasite. Although there is a tone of grandiosity in his op, and Flint is somewhat of a narcissist, he mainly wanted to share his experience that independence and a better life can be achieved and it's worth the effort.

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Great point Chris.

He can work anywhere in the EU. He chooses where he is and his fate by not going somewhere with higher pay, less costs, and/or other improvements on his life.

He chooses and then he naysays someone who points out... things can be better, think outside your box, think of the end game, not of the next hour or next day... go and improve your lot!


He is quite insulting overall.

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Honestly, I do understand Render's point.  To be fair, talking about being poor and eating 3 meals a day does strike me as odd.  Not that I am in any way downplaying your hard times, Flint.  I just mean that it was perhaps not the best choice of words to express financial hardship.  Still though, I got your point and I see what you are saying in the big picture.

Render, again I understand where you are coming from but I think you are taking this too personally.  And quite frankly, there is a difference between being offended and being harassed.  You have been offended by what has been said here, and that's unfortunate.  But you are now harassing another player by telling them that your dream is for them to die, and by saying you will relieve them of their cash of they are ever in spain.

That is uncalled for, and will not be tolerated.  Let's take this down a notch.

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dont worry I aint posting anymore, this forum is all infected with elephants spamming everywhere

its no longer politics forum, only the platform for a conservative campaign that you're all allowing

I see where you come...

Flint you are a great politician, you know the words to use on the pop to manipulate minds and convince people you're the hero coming to save them.  I dont want/need to be saved, I'm fine where I am with my family and my poverty and I'd never change it for your life and your 600$ pocket

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LoL... elephant lined room... that's great... next to make it the world since I am supposedly such a great Statesman.

So Flint for President of the United States? Or Flint for the head of the U.N.?

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Wait, you're "fine" with your poverty and where you're at in life? Then what in the hell was all this bitching and counter posting about?

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Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

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flint for supreme ruler of the world!!

So I told the cop, "No YOU'RE driving under the influence... of being a JERK!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFjjO_lhf9c

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flint this is for you, enjoy it wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZXfcNRjYVQ

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cool

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