Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

well if you are one with 7 planets its not good because you will die first wink

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

I think I will die first anyway...:P

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Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

I think your forgetting there's a whole 48 ticks before attacks can be used... On top of that the difference between expoing three and 6 was around 4.5k... Or less than two ticks income... The difference in my opinion was small considering the income gained from pop would be greater, and the loss of two ticks not all that costly...

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Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

More pop = more hf needed + more spent on exploring not in infra. And 27 hours from now, more lasers you need to build to protect yourself. It all equals less infra which is death.

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Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

Lets all have our tactics smile

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mmmmmmm spam, nomnomnom

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"Lets all have our tactics smile"

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lol is this all of ur chaps first round of sd? most of the rounds the winners are those who expoed 6 planets

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

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Rookies, pfft. I started with the same exact start as last time there was no market. numbers are the same except i went to bed 2 ticks earlier this time sad

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its funny though every round ppl make fun of the 6 eships senders. i think the only time u dont expo 6 is when u dont start with 6 eships...

first sd ss you start with 0 eships but 100k gc and skoe explored 6 planets and that was a failure.

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

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Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

to benefit from the beginnig of the bonus planets, 4 planets are needed.

but then building cfs on bonus planets would not be smart. so 6 planets are needed anyway as soon as possible. Casting SA is easy just before first buildings are done. so exploring 6 right away makes absolutely sense.

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There are so many more factors that play into this...its not going to come down to who explored or didnt explore 6 by itself.

It also comes down to who is around you (aggressiveness, activity, skill) map position and what buildings you are building. If you make small mistakes in a 1 person fam it can really end your round.

So lets just sit back and see what happens tongue

Solis - #7872

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> [Render] wrote:
> well, what if quantum only research construction?


I don't need to answer this myself, there is a good post from Noir who answeres the question:

[quoted from /strategy/The Noir Q and A Thread]
> Noir wrote:
> I would say that eco is superior to con, for theese reasons;
>
> Early on exploration is a large cost, and is not reduced by construction science, ergo its better to research eco.
> [...]
> However be aware of reasons that might make con more desireable:
> If you are using RCs, their production will not be affected by increased eco science, and your science is thus only increasing a part of your income, not your total production. Eco science is most efficient when your production in 100% cash
>
> SUmmed up i believe that eco is better than con, but it depends on how you play:
>
> Try to figure out if you will be spending more or less on contruction than you produce in the near future, and if you will spend more, get con, if you will produce mostly, get eco. By the same logic you would want to get construction research before big jumps, which should make sense to everyone

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rabble... rabble...

Down with all Quantums!!

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In SDSS Construction bonus (overall, not start specific) is more important. My point of view.

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Ok, so correct me if I'm wrong, but you guys that explored didn't wait until you had the stuff saved to fb a planet? What do you do with empty planets? They just grow pop and eat all your food so you starve! Noooooobs.

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Its called having built farms to cover it so you dont starve tongue

Im not starving....

Solis - #7872

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I'm just went with the best calc I came up with, and it happened to be with four planets explored.

Will be fun to see where people are at during 2nd wave of explos that's less than a day away

Leap ahead

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Imo 6 is the best, as u want to specialize as much as possible on the planets

Youll need 1 endu planet and 2 iron planets at least imo, and then u need room for more CFs aswell.

Im guessing thoose that went with less planets went with atleast one endu and one iron, imo the risk for failure is large with that kinda strategy

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@Arby

Pop always gives you more than it costs so dont bring that up as your point here. Also to go further on the fact 'not able to fb one planet'... People who planned a  bit should know its perfectly possible. Also it 'only' costs you 3k more than exploring 4 instead of 6 which was suggested a bit earlier in this thread.

Exploring 6 is not nubish if you do everything according to it. But you cant forget to build farms like this noob did (points at himself) tongue

Re: ~Sagittarius Dwarf PVC~

I completely agree with Noir, Orion and Hydro.

the pop of 6 additional planets give gc. 50gc at the start up to 2400gc when maxed out....

the first 28 ticks it gives about 2800gc. (5000 additional pop)
needs 5 farms. which costs 800gc, 15iron and 5 endu. so 2800gc is a lot more than that.... wink

As well higher total exploration costs has to be taken into consideration if not exploring 6 at once.

But of course this is only about infra building. there are lots of other factors that will decide the game...

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food     24,371    

Only need to do a little planning to cover your food needs. I make a surplus of 2k food a tick currently. Takes forever for pop to grow in with a pop bonus. at -30% which i'd assume all customs have food won't be a hinderance (unless you forget to make HFs... tongue )

Only error i had so far was going to bed and forgetting to build the last tick before i went to bed. Set some of my iron back 20 hours (sleep hours+con hours) but its only around 30-40 iron difference overall (hopefully tongue)

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Well, I guess I better send my 6 out!

Modestus Experitus

Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

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88     (6132) [4,61]     1     2250     213
89     Boarderlands (6154) [21,16]     1     2125     200
90     the victorins (6139) [88,73]     1     1810     195
91     (6147) [92,44]     1     1250     184
92     Giedi Prime Retirement Home (6126) [26,58]     1     1250     184
93     (6070) [91,32]     1     1250     184
94     (6125) [72,9]     1     1250     184
95     Philosopher King (6130) [57,33]     1     1250     184
96     (6158) [1,26]     1     1250     184
97     (6127) [32,76]     1     1250     184
98     (6071) [44,42]     1     1250     184
99     (6136) [52,83]     1     1250     184

i find that kinda lame they join and do NOTHING..

i say get them killed of right away and let new players join who want to play ? they have some set back but maybe they make it.. better than those inactives tongue

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multis, they will hb when no one notices and explore for there main account holders...probs