Topic: 20/15 vs 17

[13:49] <@arsy>  Week 46, 25Reply Save
[13:49] <@arsy> We hereby cancel our NAP. war starts in 48 hours from this msg. We want to keep our allies outta it, but that's up to u to discuss with 10 bout. 2 vs us is fine by me. Good luck
[13:49] <@arsy> Signed, T of Power Tiller (#5517)


Funny how they cancel when we are in the middle of a huge war

[13:43] <@RisingDown> never thought i'd say it, but TBO actually did something useful.
[13:43] <@arsy> dont let him see you say that
[13:43] <@RisingDown> oh shit
[13:43] * You were kicked from #room by arsy (kapow!)

Re: 20/15 vs 17

Looks more like a farm to me hmm

We held off as long as we could IMO.  When else are we going to fight this round?  We can't help that you planned to drag out the 21/22 war until EOR - we have no targets left and Impire isn't one to simply EOR jump yikes


blah blah, we're dishonorable.  This should be entertaining to read - 15/20 can sit on the moral high ground - they are in a win-win situation.  We can either sit back and let 20 have the round win or we can cancel and they look like the winners anyways.  Sigh... this is why I'm getting sick of this game too.  We wanted a 2v2v2 - our allies did not.  So we offered to 2v2v1.  You ignore that and cancel on 21/22 without us.  You've taken +/- 1000 planets as an alliance and now we want a 1v2 with 3 days saves.  We have SOTs - you have some saves.  You can fight us - we're just one fam that's half inactive.  I'm probably just going to play in a small fam next round because as a larger fam, you simply can't get away from the constant drama.  Maybe I'll pull a Bara and become SS and carry my fam to 30mil nw all by myself.  Nah, I suck too much to do that lol

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20 and 15 are getting wut they asked for!!;) i saw this coming .. we will not stop fight 15 and 20 till eor....

" i am the bringer of death.. destroyer of worlds"

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lol how sad....

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

Re: 20/15 vs 17

Drag things out? We've been fighting for only 3 days and it wasn't until yesterday that we took a significant lead in the planets. Gtfo Oxygen.

Sex without the e is still SX!

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TBO don't even try that bullshit. My fam might as well should have been in war when u started. Shut up u whiney bish.

The Last Pre-Beta Vet

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Curious that you planned to cancel earlier than us then isn't it Smaug?

I mean, that's the sort of thing an unready, battered up fam does right?

Get serious smile

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"To be fair we had heard that 20/15 were planning to cancel nap 2morrow so it ended Sunday, so we planned to cancel it this afternoon so it ended Saturday afternoon, then I got a well written message from Nolio  cancelling it this morning so it ends Saturday morning rofl"

ya they were practically in war!

Whea!

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What would you have us do?  We offered a 2v2v2 - 10 declined.  We offered a 2v2v1 (easy farm for both your alliances) - THAT was denied.  You have some saves and we have only saved 2.5 days.  We also jumped Teddy some fleet and are paying his upkeep continually.  I don't know what you would have us do.  We would like to war you this round and now we have that chance.  It's a 1v2 as well - limited morale on our end.  I'm sure that there will be some fun these last two days, even if you bicker like women until then.

10 (edited by Smaugey 20-Dec-2011 22:51:06)

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Ummm who said I said that? First off if u believe it that's ur own fault not mine. I just love the contradictions from pea-size brains. And yeah we weren't goona cancel at all we had no shot. So however u found out, it was lies and false information. Just brainstorming ways to win.
that's ok once I buy this game ill stop playing this game. Im tired of all the idiots who double-standard. If Stefan or u guys wont fix this game. Ill do it myself. That is...if Stefan likes money after all smile

The Last Pre-Beta Vet

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The next time you post you're gonna say you've only been saving for 2 days? It keeps going down lol
Also sidenote: We've been saving for no days because we're in a war tongue

Whea!

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> Steve Butabi wrote:

> The next time you post you're gonna say you've only been saving for 2 days? It keeps going down lol
Also sidenote: We've been saving for no days because we're in a war tongue

meh, 2.5 - 3 days.  I was away most of the weekend and yesterday, so I'm not actually familiar with our saves.  It's a ballpark guess.

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whatever information lead to this war of ours, you still had more time and stuff then we would now.

and what is "fixing"' this game actually? tongue

Elrohir
"Abstract art is the product of the untalented, sold by the unprincipled to the utterly bewildered.."

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Oxygen, what would I have you do? I'd have you realise what you wanted to do is dishonorable and disrespectful and you'd then not do it to a bunch of people you played with before and are your "friends"? Ya know?

15 (edited by Steve Butabi 20-Dec-2011 22:54:26)

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> Smaugey wrote:

> Ummm who said I said that? First off if u believe it that's ur own fault not mine. I just love the contradictions from pea-size brains. And yeah we weren't goona cancel at all we had no shot. So however u found out, it was lies and false information. Just brainstorming ways to win.
that's ok once I buy this game ill stop playing this game. Im tired of all the idiots who double-standard. If Stefan or u guys wont fix this game. Ill do it myself. That is...if Stefan likes money after all smile

And you say we have the pea sized brains... It was posted in the war thread, everyone knows you were gonna cancel if 20/15 didn't. I can't tell if you are playing dumb or if you are actually that dumb

Editted in: What makes you think he's gonna sell it now? Hes had offers in the past and had never taken them, dunno if hes gonna start now.

Whea!

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Week 24, 23Reply Save
Its cool I was goona cancel on u in a couple ticks either way tongue
Signed, 2Pac of Tupac Amaru Shakur (#5521)

Sex without the e is still SX!

17 (edited by Smaugey 20-Dec-2011 23:00:12)

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This game has gone to shit elrohir. It hasn't changed in 13 years. Nobody changes either. This game needs an overhaul...obviously.

The community is hostile.
Everyone I talk to ia tired of it..
We half half the people we used to.
No advertising
No gameplay(new units, bldg)
Its the same strategy everytime. Infra, farm, infra, farm, infra, maybe war, infra, eor war. Infra, eor jump.
Same stuff just another round. Its overly repetitive and unfair to smaller fams.
Nobody seems to understand even little things. For example our community. Don't u people realize 14 active people is almost impossible for except maybe 1 or #2 fams. Ic is broke...if nobody cares to fix it. Ill invest in something else . I feel since I've seen the game since literally the start. Someone like me could make relevant and useful changed.
This game will die soon unless addressed asap

The Last Pre-Beta Vet

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Yeah Nolio...to make u think ur info was correct smile
And no that wasn't necessarily 100% true. It was a thought that was discussed but never set it stone.
how else would we beat a fam that saved for 7 days, when we had been warring. Strategy Nolio, Strategy.

The Last Pre-Beta Vet

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> Genesis wrote:

> Oxygen, what would I have you do? I'd have you realise what you wanted to do is dishonorable and disrespectful and you'd then not do it to a bunch of people you played with before and are your "friends"? Ya know?


Is it not dishonorable to farm an alliance for 1k planets so that you can win size?  Are we simply supposed to take a knee and EOR jump and settle for 2nd?  We wanted the 2v2v1 - you did not.  I thought that was a fair way to end this round, yet you didn't include us in that.  We waited as long as we could, hoping you would honorably nap 21/22 after taking 500 or so so we could have a quick war.  We've practically asked you point blank to war us.  Do I feel okay canceling on you during your war?  No.  But my fam did not waste 8 weeks to simply sit on the sidelines while you farm to victory.  I would cry foul if we had our ally and we saved a week and blindsided you.  We are allyless, we haven't saved that long (Teddy's huge ass nw), it's 1v2, we cancelled so that we would only fight for 48hrs or less and we've wanted this war all round! 

We've worked just as hard as you have this round.  We fought 21/22 early on and beat them (slight victory).  We fought 16/07 and won (slight victory).  We've fought 14, 18, etc etc.  We haven't fought your alliance.  Why didn't you want the 2v2v1?

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Is it not dishonorable to farm an alliance for 1k planets so that you can win size?

We didn't. They raided a banker, we raided 2. That was 24 hours ago. And a lot of those planets were blown up. You and 10 explored those. Its not a farm, its a war. In fact, we didn't even go up planets until yesterday. As of then it was pretty much even and they had been hitting bankers the whole time. We were hitting attackers for the first 2 days. If you're gong to tell a story at least be accurate.

Sex without the e is still SX!

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Reading what you just wrote Oxy, it's painfully obvious that your plan was set so long ago that no one in your family even bothered to check planet counts.

Yesterday, 21/22 raided Limbo in my fam for a sum close to 300 planets. We went under 2900. Afterwards, we then proceeded to do 2 raids back, taking us to the current pcounts. That isn't farming, that's a part of what is going on, a war, you know? We don't have to come here to justify ourselves ot your family when you already have the speech set up to justify what you want to do, which is to cancel a NAP on another fam who has no saves, over 800 unportalled planets and can't possibly match your fam, because YOU are worried about pcount win, not us. We're busy fighting a war, you know?

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Can I briefly offer an anecdote that sort of applies to the current situation?  Here it goes:


Two rounds ago, I was in a fam with basically the same core people and we wanted to make a 2v2 interesting by canceling on the fam that was clearly going to win.  It would have been a 2v2v1 (or a 3v2 of sorts, but we weren't going to coordinate with the other alliance at all).  Anyways, everyone got mad and we re-napped.  We waited for our turn to hit that stronger alliance.  Then Tobi (lol I love you) blindsided us and forced us to deplete our saves.  While this war was going on (or right at the end), the stronger alliance canceled on us.  We cried foul in the forums and no one cared.  They farmed us and we finished the round in 5th (barely)


The only difference to this story is that there's not enough time in the round for this to happen.  If there was another week in the round and we had another target, I'm positive that we would war that other target, you would end the war and save and then 2v1 us.  Morale limits prevent us from taking however many planets you've already taken.  Hell, I think 21/22 should pnap you so that we can fight it out for the round win.  Do we have more saves?  Yeah.  Would it still be a chaotic last 2 days?  Yeah.  I think it would be a ton of fun - there's no chance we can touch all your unportalled planets - that's why we waited so long.  If we were truly dbags, we would have made up with 10, saved a week, cancelled on you during the height of your war (not this farmfest) and claimed alliance victory.  We waited and waited.  We can't wait anymore. 


You have saves.  Fight us.  It's 1v2.  Pnap 21/22 and let's do this.

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I'm curious Oxy, when was the height of our war? I'm really curious please tell me.

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I want to know what savings we have personally. Pretty sure we've been opped nonstop since start of war lol We have no gc.

Sex without the e is still SX!

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I'm quite puzzled as to why people think we have all these savings.
We have iron, yes. But what use is that when you have nothing else and its selling for less than 10gc apiece on the market....