Re: question for socialists

I'm proud to be a liberal!

You all make it out to be some derogatory remark to be spat on.

=^o.o^= When I'm cute I can be cute.  And when I'm mean, I can be very very mean.  I'm a cat.  Expect me to be fickle.

Re: question for socialists

I am proud to be a liberal as well, it is just that my definition of liberal is not what american's think is liberal. In fact I am a Liberal Socialist and many Americans would think that was a saying the same thing twice....

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Re: question for socialists

that's basically belonging to the Standing-At-The-Back-Dressed-Stupidly-And-Looking-Stupid Party

but without the social conscience

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Re: question for socialists

I easily confuse Liberal with Left-wing, and then I realize I am Liberal who despises people further to the left. Of course, I am a Liberal in a class shared by very few. Yet, it's so easily described by three points.

1. Politics and morality do not mix.
- In politics, the evil out compete those striving to be good.
- Every state is justified in doing evil to serve its citizens. Thus to question the morality of the state's actions generally borders on treason. However, it is a civic duty to hold political authority accountable for incompetence and the duty of care it owes its citizens.

2. Political authorities can only base their decisions on empirical knowledge and pragmatic considerations.
- Authorities in religion and the humanities may have things to say that are pleasing to the ear, but political authorities can not allow themselves to be distracted by them.

3. Political authorities' central aim must be the welfare of its citizens.
- What is good for x is what is good for x's people.

Some people say that's conservative, but I measured my conclusions as balancing on the center-left.