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"4700 decided to attack 4696 when we started our campaign against them. They decided to strike us and start a war with them at the same time. How is this our problem? Simple answer: its not. The leader of 4700 exhibited little to no foresight when it came to strategy. "
Gets your facts right AA. We were already attacking 96 before you and your allies decided to tag team on us.
get your eyes checked he said you attacked 96 while they were at war with 03, which is vulturing, which means we you had no honour code and will recieve none in return
haha you're right, i guess I need glasses 
I've said this many times before but I will say it again just for the people that fail to listen. Yes we attacked 96 when 03 was waring them, but we attacked with no knowledge of the war. Once we found out the attacks immediately stopped. The time frame of attacks was maybe 2 ticks. So no it was not vulturing and yes we do play with honor. If we did not, then we would have continued to attack 96 and ignored their war.
Ok i stand corrected. My apologies....however....
You failed to announce this so called 'war' in uni news. I say 'so called war' cuz its not a war. Its a few attacks in a small handfull of systems near 96's core area. Who you are skirmishing with is none of our concern and it has no bearing on our decision to war you guys. You are just reinforcing my earlier statement of how your family has failed at diplomacy.
You could of easily talked with 96 to establish an agreement of some kind or perhaps backed off attacking them all together to focus on us. Instead you have chosen to mislable this as a '3 on 1' battle and complain in the forums in a feeble attempt to paint us as villians.
We did not decided to strike you guys, we were just simply clearing you from our core. What are we suppose to think when you pop up in 4-5 different systems in our core, and you are very small? We did what any other fam would do. Drop and attack in NW and clear the threat. It is not an act of war, just simply protecting our selves.
You're right it was not a war with 96, we were just fighting over a couple systems near there core, trying to gain position on them.
I am in no way strengthening your argument about our lack of diplomacy. My fam has done just fine, sorry we did not except 2 families larger than us to be dishonorable enough to 2 v 1 us. Pretty sure you guys are the only top families that would stoop that low. Congrats!
Yes....and you have every right to protect youreself. Just as we have every right to go to war with your family.
there is no dishonor in an alliance taking on one family. Your alliance failed at diplomacy. Simple as that. Everyone knows that you NAP and war together as an alliance to prevent exactly what is happening right now. Had your family intervened in our earlier NAP talks with your ally and protested your lack of involvement in this NAP this could of been a 2 on 2 war. But you didnt.
Like i said...you only have yourself to blame.
Let me fix your statement for you AA "Yes....and you have every right to protect youreself. Just as we think we have every right to 2 v 1 your family."
LOL
ok 
I figured thats what you were meaning to say, so I figured I would play Mod and correct it for you
At the end of the day this is just a game and everyone plays it to have fun, but that fun is taken away when your fam is getting 2 v 1. It completely takes all the fun out of the game not being able to have to morale to fend off two attacking families.
I am just saying I figured top families would play with a little more dignity than that.
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Can I get the facts about my fam#s involvement in this set straight:
1. We go to war with 03
2. 00 raid one of our bankers in the far south of our core, well away from them.
3. We retake most, and war with 03 continues.
4. 03 portal and jump Ocho who had made the original raid. He starts hitting us in that system. We retake.
4. Scorp raids us in the area currently being fought over.
5. War with 03 ends.
6. We start retaking Scorp's hits, and clear Ocho, who's skirmishing with Rogue in other systems as well.
7. Turns into a fight over the systems Scorp hit us in. Not total war, or anything close to it.
The order of some of those points may be up for debate, granted. But that's due to the alcohol fuelled haze hanging over the past couple of weeks. That's as best as I can remember, and maybe I've done some injustice to 00 by making it seem they did more damage than they did or something, but fact remains, we are not at war with them. Far from it, I've offered to make a NAP agreement with Artic so that he doesn't have to fight 3 fams, but he has to understand that it will now be on our terms. We can't let them stay in those systems after all that has happened.
You have 2 # 4's bullet
But yes sounds about right to me. We had assumed the war was over between you and 03 because your NW and planet count had not changed in a couple days. My fault for assuming, we should have clarified before we went on the offense.
> Ocho wrote:
> You have 2 # 4's bullet
Told you some points might be up for debate
> jgriffin wrote:
> Props to whomever for keeping Purple's pop down. o.O
Yay thank you jgriffin
4. 03 portal and jump Ocho who had made the original raid. He starts hitting us in that system. We retake.
umm... you mean 00?
lol gotta love how people say the top families dont attack the smaller families yet they magically get more planets, it must be osmosis!
I didn't say they don't attack small families I said they don't 2 v 1 them. Learn to read buddy.
> twosidedeath wrote:
> 4. 03 portal and jump Ocho who had made the original raid. He starts hitting us in that system. We retake.
umm... you mean 00?
Of course. And tbh Ocho, it was only the other day that you were top 5 for NW or size or something, so you're not that small.
Yes I know bullet, but thats what happens when a family gets 2v1 You get knocked down quite a bit.
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"Wendy, how about play monopoly starting with one person having 10million cash and the other 10 cents. Perhaps the same fair story as here."
that's a terrible comparison, cos we all now that no one starts playing monopoly like that, cos it's not the rules...
Quit whining over fams having allies, why don't you get yours involved since you must have them & if they can't get involved cos of naps etc then that's down to the failure of your alliance surely, so just play & quit whining...
& what AA said...
Once again, I've given Artic the opportunity to PNAP. We shall see whether he takes it or not...
lol why is this thread still going? its not even titled correctly
We seem to be keeping it going
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