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as someone else said, if your in a small family, and your being attacked by a much bigger one, would it not be fair and appropriate to form alliances with other smaller fams who were also attacked by them to seek revenge?
i really don't get this rule, the unexpected is supposed to be apart of fights, and it seems your trying to take away that "unexpected" aspect.
it would never work lol, the 4 top fams would just create a big alliance and kill everybody under those rules and win every round, wouldn't that be fun
ok i didn't read all of the posts but i have a question. in this scenario two families are NAPed in game 24,48h whatever and a 3rd family makes an agreement to portal up in one of the NAPed families in order to attack the othe NAPed family. is this IA, i was assume, and in this situation would it be ok to break your NAP agreement to clear the 3rd family from the others core?
i would clear that intruder in other fam cores and pass that planet to your nap fam
maybe i explained it wrong. the two PNAP families are not what im questioning. its the agreed expo,portal,laser of the 3rd family in the 2nd families core to attack the 1st family. making the agreement between the 3rd and 2nd family a IA IMO. but my opinion doesn't change rules so... my other point is. if the 1st family clears the 3rd family from the 2nd families core. then the 1st family cant hand that planet over to the 2nd family because of the ingame PNAP does not allow attacks between those families. this is probably a break in a claus of the PNAP.
I see your point but this is my 1st round leading with new system in place. tbh im not even sure how it works.
in any case there are ways to abuse this system and always will be probably but would it be vaible to put an option in the PNAP page to allow attacks for 1 tic or 1 planet to allow for swaps?
Say I'm in family A and i get in a fight with my leader. I go and tell family B where families A DS are, how much fleet they have, who makes what resources.
Is this grounds for IA? if not it should be.
ya yahya yaya its your own family but what if your lead attacker goes rogue... hard to kill him off. whats done in this situation?
its definitely an IA lol
if your lead attacker goes rogue, you put the rogue tag on him, and he can't do anything.
but yea, thats an ia
you really are dumb eh... read what i said he was doing. then answer the question
"Coordinating with anyone who is not an ally, i.e. to perform ops or attacks to assist the unallied family, share information, etc., is not allowed"
> Undeath wrote:
> if your lead attacker goes rogue, you put the rogue tag on him, and he can't do anything.
but yea, thats an ia
You can't put the rogue tag on him if he's the leader. :P
But to answer the question, coordinating/sharing info with anyone outside of your alliance is classed as an illegal alliance.
If your leader is breaking the rules you can get him blocked, but if he isn't just vote a new leader in and mark the old leader as rogue.
in the hypothetical situation it was him getting in a fight with his leader and then going to other families with information X(
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Someone said > if your in a small family, and your being attacked by a much bigger one, would it not be fair and appropriate to form alliances with other smaller fams who were also attacked by them to seek revenge?
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> Keerb wrote:
If the leader goes rogue, it shouldnt be so hard for the rest of the fam to vote a new leader and then put him rogue?
Not if they are...
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> Keerb wrote:
If the leader goes rogue, it shouldnt be so hard for the rest of the fam to vote a new leader and then put him rogue?
If It's an active an organised fam, It's easy. But if you're in a mid to low pack fam, by the time you get most of the fam online and aware of what's going on, the rogue could have done quite a bit of damage.
The issue is, everybody knows illegal alliances are going on all the time and there is nothing being done by mods to stop them. Some mods who play even participate in them. Thus, eventually, when people figure out what's really going on - that IC is basically a popularity contest - they leave the game.
The top families participate in illegal alliances (or illegal agreements which are in effect alliances), and the small families, usually new players, don't stand a chance.
>>>>You can't expect a rule to be followed if that rule is unenforceable.<<<<
If this game is to expect any future growth in players, it has to solve the issue so that illegal alliances and making illegal agreements are either decriminalized or enforced.
To decriminalize it, just take away all napping / pnapping etc. - I don't think this game will last much longer if you choose this option.
The best way for the rule to be enforced is for there to be built into the game concept a self-regulating system whereby the more honorable-acting fams tend to be the more successful fams.
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> xeno syndicated wrote:
> The issue is, everybody knows illegal alliances are going on all the time and there is nothing being done by mods to stop them. Some mods who play even participate in them. Thus, eventually, when people figure out what's really going on - that IC is basically a popularity contest - they leave the game.
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