Topic: Star Craft 2

Out this month tongue

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Protos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZcVU2m0HWU


Zerg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pofu5i7vUYk&feature=channel


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Re: Star Craft 2

cheat codes?

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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not sure aboput cheat codes sure there are some kicking about

from what i have heard it comes with it own editor so you can build maps + add loads of extra rezzies and have massive wars, should be lots of fun then again blizzard make awesome games

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were you in the beta?

phase II just closed today.. i am going through withdrawals already...

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no not in beta unil my new pc arrives ill struggle to play it sad but in process of building new PC as star craft 2 + diablo 3 coming out soon, fun fun.   Still play IC tho obviously tongue

6 (edited by avogadro 20-Jul-2010 05:40:56)

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i was in the beta....     not impressed by the game. i was impressed by all the custom "maps" already out. if Blizzard were not being complete nazi's regarding the game, i'd definitely get it, especially because i can get it for free; but because they are being nazi's about it, i probably won't even get it for free.

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yeah i'm not a fan of bnet 2.0 or the no lan thing, but i thought the game itself was a lot of fun. and there is so much potential for sweet ums maps with the new editor. i'm excited smile

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No LAN?
Bye.

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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there isn't even internet-authenticated LAN...

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> Blizzard Entertainment eliminated LAN on an implied premise that everyone has broadband internet and latency will not be an issue.  According to the company, the game is region-locked because latency will be an issue.  Starcraft features an internationally-diverse competitive gaming scene.  According to the company, confining them to regional servers will foster community. <

Yeah... I liked playing Starcraft online specifically because it ran without any problems, even on 56K dial up.
As for the region lock thing: Is latencey an issue or isn't it? Get your bullpat straight, Blizzard.

Oh, and they're killing the chat too...
AAAAND they steal any custom map you make....

again: bye!

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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Cool they take maps you create, thats actually an awesome feature, so if you create a good enough map it could be played by thousands of people, sounds good to me, well better than the map you spent ages making sat on your PC doing nothing, and it gives loads of options for players to build maps they like (ie huge wars, mini skirmish maps, deffended position maps) I dont see a problem with that.

Also Blizzard is by far one of the best game makers going, so you know when Blizzard make a game they will have a team of people sat on it and making changes, think its a bit early to blow a game out of the water before its even been released to everyone, give it a few months to iron out any glitches and listen to player feeback.

I mean Blizzard are only one of the most well known and most sucsessful gaming companies on the planet, they deff have the power to change rubbish parts of any game, just like they do with WOW on a regular occasion.

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its not like we are talking about bugs or about balance problems, you could obviously expect blizzard to fix those...  blizzard intentionally made it so its impossibe to play outside of anyone in your region other then in a blizzard sponsored event. they intentionally made it so that there are no LAN's even internet authenticated LAN's so that blizzard can prevent organized starcraft 2 events that don't pay blizzard money for it.

ok, i loved starcraft, i loved diablo, i loved diablo 2, i loved warcraft, and warcraft 2, but all those games are at least 10 years old.... what have they done in the last decade? warcraft 3 and world of warcraft. warcraft 3 was a failure of a rts and its only saving grace was that a fan developed DOTA with it.  World of Warcraft to say it was commercially successful is an understatement; but you know how many people that actually played mmo's before WoW likes the game? very few... its a very polished game, which has made it very noob friendly, but thats really the only thing wow has for it, its polish.

Blizzard of today is not the Blizzard of the diablo's, the original starcraft, and the first two warcrafts; its the blizzard of WoW; it is a giant machine lacking soul and originality and is poised to milk their IP's for as much money as possible.

13 (edited by Spiritual 20-Jul-2010 21:17:44)

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So whos better than Blizzard?

EA tongue lol


Edit - You do know why WOW is so polished dont you?  Because Blizzard made the first attempt at WOW and then dicthed about 2 or 3 years work and decided to start all over again because they wasnt happy with it, they basically made half the entire game and then said "eermmm no start again" and that had nothing to do with profits, in fact they wasted multiple thousands, but in the end wasnt happy with the game they made and thought the players wouldnt be so they dicthed the first WOW attempt and started from scratch, cost them loads, without a penny in profit.

I do agree Blizzard will have changed with the launch of WOW its earnt them millions, however still when Blizzard make a game they spend 3, 4, 5 years making it and dont rush out rubbish for profit.... In fact your entire argument is flawed because of one point (WOW!!) that game makes them millions each month, so why do they even need to bring out other games?  They dont basically, yet we have SC2 + Diablo3 hitting the shelves soon, and am sure they will carry on making games even if it does take them years in production.

But then again I also loved star craft 1 + diablo 1 and 2, was hoping for a lot with the follow ups as theuy were awesome games, guess we will see.... Any news on Diablo?

14 (edited by avogadro 20-Jul-2010 21:53:13)

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you do realize that Blizzard is now part of activision? as for a company that is better then blizzard, Valve is the obvious choice.

a lot of game companies polish their games, and they tend to be the most successful game companies, so to say that polishing a game over many years has nothing to do with making a lot of money is complete BS.

we have sc2 and diablo3 coming out because the IP's are worth a lot of money and Blizzard's boss, Bobby Kotick insists on milking their IP's....

why does blizzard make other games when they have WoW making money? because Activision wants more money, obviously....

i also never said that they rush rubbish out for profit. games that are not polished do not make nearly as much money, it only makes sense to polish them. but polish doesn't make a game good, it just makes it polished. sc2 is polished, world of warcraft is polished; diablo 2 is polished, but diablo 2 is the only good game of the three.

15 (edited by Chris_Balsz 20-Jul-2010 21:45:27)

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well if its like movies you gotta get the mega blockbusters if you wanna do the odd cult classic

btw WoW gave teh world

leerooyyyy JENKins

and that is like a warning to us all that would not have been heard without WoW.  He had been sighted for decades in Avalon Hill board games and the odd FASA multilance melee but it took WoW to capture him in electronic media

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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> Cool they take maps you create, thats actually an awesome feature, so if you create a good enough map it could be played by thousands of people, sounds good to me, well better than the map you spent ages making sat on your PC doing nothing, and it gives loads of options for players to build maps they like (ie huge wars, mini skirmish maps, deffended position maps) I dont see a problem with that. <

I do see a problem with it: It's "legally" THEIR map, you don't get credit for it. I for one would never make a map under those circumstances, there would be no point.


> Also Blizzard is by far one of the best game makers going, so you know when Blizzard make a game they will have a team of people sat on it and making changes, think its a bit early to blow a game out of the water before its even been released to everyone, give it a few months to iron out any glitches and listen to player feeback. <

They can't fix what the players want fixed in the time they have left, neither can they fix what needs fixing, and I don't think they want to.
EG: I can't afford to connect to the internet just to play a LAN, I don't want to connect to the internet just to play a LAN, which means I won't buy it just like I won't buy games that force me to connect to the internet when all I want is some Single Player action.
I don't care if there's a "good" reason for it (yet to hear one) it's alienating people without internet.

> I mean Blizzard are only one of the most well known and most sucsessful gaming companies on the planet, they deff have the power to change rubbish parts of any game, just like they do with WOW on a regular occasion. <

Yeah, but they don't have the time or the inclination: These are OLD concerns, and the game is about to be released.
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Unless you like the way this is going (and PC game releases in general) I suggest you make a point and not buy Starcraft 2.

....

I remember when they announced seperate campaigns... I could have lived with the seperate campaigns if the rest of it was still Starcraft, but it ain't... PC gaming is about community and fun, not looking hard in front of your mates; THATS WHAT CONSOLES ARE FOR X(

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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>> PC gaming is about community and fun, not looking hard in front of your mates; THATS WHAT CONSOLES ARE FOR <<

actually no, that's what pinball machines are for. Ever see people laugh at pinball, even when they lose? Do they go "Ohhhh!!! I HAD YOU !! Man!" no they are a grim surly lot.  Gotta keep the stoneface or you might get shanked.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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so basically the message is, star craft 2 and diablo 3 are both going to suck because blizzard have decided to make money from them sad so whats the news on diablo?   I at least assumed diablo would be good, i enjoyed both 1 and 2, cant see how they could mess diablo up, think you would have to be a epic spanner to mess diablo up lol.

19 (edited by avogadro 21-Jul-2010 22:00:17)

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> Spiritual wrote:

> so basically the message is, star craft 2 and diablo 3 are both going to suck because blizzard have decided to make money from them sad so whats the news on diablo?   I at least assumed diablo would be good, i enjoyed both 1 and 2, cant see how they could mess diablo up, think you would have to be a epic spanner to mess diablo up lol.


no, every game company makes games to make money from them...  i never said the reason why starcraft 2 and diablo 3 will suck is because blizzard is trying to make money from them.


starcraft 2 and diablo 3 will suck because this is not the blizzard that made starcraft, the diablo's, and warcraft 1 and 2. they are not making starcraft 2 and diablo 3 because they suddenly came up with an awesome idea how to implement both of them. Activision said you have two valuable IP's you are not milking, make more games with those IP's. So they are making a RTS and a RPG by modern standards in the gaming industry, except they slap the Starcraft IP onto one and the Diablo IP onto the other to make bigger bucks. they are not continuations of starcraft and diablo, they are simply modern games with well known IP's.

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what if you could rampage through diablo with protoss weaposn?

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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I will pwn you all at SCII. Me and my blink stalkers will OWN YOU!

"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
- J. Robert Oppenheimer

22 (edited by East 26-Jul-2010 07:59:47)

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maybe they'll add more multiplayer in an expansion? you know when the initial rush wears off they find ways of making even more money...

edit: also avogadro I tried to read that ghetto link but it's written pretty incomprehensibly, I do get it enough to understand that I'm supposed to shake my skinny little fists at blizzard entertainment but the intricate details elude me still

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alright noobs add me:

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Re: Star Craft 2

> Spiritual wrote:

> so basically the message is, star craft 2 and diablo 3 are both going to suck because blizzard have decided to make money from them sad so whats the news on diablo?   I at least assumed diablo would be good, i enjoyed both 1 and 2, cant see how they could mess diablo up, think you would have to be a epic spanner to mess diablo up lol.


No one... is allowed to mention Diablo 3 sucking. Those thoughts are not allowed to be together... Ever, at all. IF and... a big if, they ever release that thing before the world blows up in 2012.. it IS going to be uber awesome... because if not, I will march to any person that was involved in the creation of Diablo 3, and fill their house with my tears.

*rocks in corner whispering to self* diablo 3.. will not suck... diablo 3.. will not suck.