Re: Gun Control Advocates LIED! EUROPE IS NOT SAFER!

Please don't feed trolls. They're only ignorant because they want to be.

When you intentionally don't investigate the facts and post garbage because YOU FIGURE that things MUST mean what you want to pretend they mean, you're only embarrassing yourself. No, you're not so brilliant that what seems obvious to you is right in the face of countless academic studies which do not support your supposedly obvious, logical, undeniable claims. Sorry to rain on your parade, but you're not brilliant, you're not enlightening anyone, and you're in need of an education.

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@kemp +1, but for different reasons than you mean...

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Re: Gun Control Advocates LIED! EUROPE IS NOT SAFER!

Our right to bear arms may be questionable, but it's in our Bill of Rights. It is assumed that those rights can not be taken away, although we have settled with adding restrictions to certain rights like speech and weaponry. My concern is that we may be setting a dangerous precedent if we start to erase any of the rights in the Bill of Rights. I like my 4th and 5th ammendment, thank you.

Re: Gun Control Advocates LIED! EUROPE IS NOT SAFER!

well, our constitution was designed to allow it to be changed, nothing can't be changed by future amendments...

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What I'm saying is that it's setting a dangerous precedent to change the first 10.

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i dont think that if the 2nd one is changed, all of a sudden theres going to be other amendments in the bill of rights thats going to be targeted....

i am more concerned with growing power from the supreme court; they can say the 2nd amendment or any other amendment doesnt pertain to certain situations...

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I WANT MY CONSTITUTION, for me, and everyone that is human like me.
let the individual state decide on amendments to or there of, and let like minded people live where they want "together".
be able to make they're own pursuit of happiness, and rights to it.

don't touch me i am contagious........;p

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>> dont think that if the 2nd one is changed, all of a sudden theres going to be other amendments in the bill of rights thats going to be targeted....<<

It is precisely 2nd Amendment rights that protect the rest of the Constitution. Well, it was supposed to be. We're already standing idle while our government violates the constitution and literally laughs at Constitutional considerations. It's a shame that most Americans are ignorant pussies now and won't stand up for themselves or the law.

I caught a few minutes of John Stossel's show tonight. Stossel asked one of the victims of the Virginia Tech shooting what he thought about guns being banned at the school (ie, those with legal concealed carry permits were restricted from carrying at the school), and the fact that an armed student could possibly have defended himself and stopped the shooter before he murdered 30 people. The victim responded that such an armed student could have gotten shot. This response confused me, because dozens of such students were shot and murdered that day. I somehow doubt that a major concern of students that day was that a fellow student might have legal concealed carry rights in the state and the school could have endangered their safety by allowing said students to carry on campus.

The school's rules prohibited the shooter from carrying on campus. Those rules didn't protect anyone that day.

The victim didn't answer the question. And his response was plain weird. He proposed that something that could have saved dozens of lives was... too dangerous to allow. If his conclusion that it's safest to outlaw people's ability to protect themselves was correct, he could have actually answered the question. He would have said "yes, an armed student could possibly have stopped the shooter, but..." and given the reason that allowing the carrying of firearms is more dangerous than banning them. But there is no such reason.

"Gun crime" and crime rates rose in Britain since Britain enacted some of the strictest gun control in the world (while crime rates fell in the USA). But people who feel safer pretending that nobody around them will ever be armed because the law prevents it put their ignorant feelings above the lives of their fellow man.

But wishing cannot make it so. All of these ignorant, repetitive posts continually ignore the facts in evidence. And such willful ignorance is dangerous. It, literally, gets people killed.

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God made man, sam colt made them equal.
the gun is only a deterrent (like a lock), but if there is a person in deadly need, and the right is there to have a gun... then if you chose to shoot the f-er dead, then it is your right as an american to do so.

ALL mankind is of equal right to this world, but none above another...
and a coward dies at every dawn, when a Hero knows one dawn after death.

don't touch me i am contagious........;p

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> [TI] ZoZferatu [Pw9] wrote:

> But you shouldn't have worried, they were firing bullets, not missiles. The first don't travel that far.

Not even going to bother responding.. Read the fullstory before trying to be a wise ass wink

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yeah apparently Britain is unprepared to set up roadblocks inside of 3 hours

Now is the time for Spain to launch Armada II

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