Re: refund for cancelled units being built

Sorry couldnt find a topic on this again using the search option. But if i built some units and decided i didnt want to build them or have them and if i cancled them will i get my resources back or some of them or is there a penalty for doing so?

Thank you!

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No not at this time but we are working something of the sort.

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so if i cancel units being bilt do i get back the resrouces? cuase i just cancled some stuff and didnt get back my resrouces or does it take a tick to update? I mean when I make stuff it takes my resources right away.

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when u cancel units or buildings u dont get any cash or resources back

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5 (edited by Poley 20-Aug-2012 09:23:41)

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x-(  [Popcorn] oh well lol

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i'm going to move this into the ideas forum.  thanks for asking this question darknight

can anybody think of any reasons why this shouldn't exist?  it seems like an obvious benefit

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There should be a penalty

You make a mistake and build wrong/too many units u should pay for it. I'd suggest u lose 20% and get 80% back.

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there should be a penalty, atleast big enuf so fams wont abuse this options to avoid decay and bureaucrazy.

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Re: refund for cancelled units being built

> Jaguar wrote:

> There should be a penalty

You make a mistake and build wrong/too many units u should pay for it. I'd suggest u lose 20% and get 80% back.


I think the penalty should be at 50%

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The penalty should be larger once more time building is spent.

In same tick as started building for ex. 10 %
then adding a few % for every so many % of building cyclus finished.

As you simulate having build them partial, the 10 % could be imagined as clearing the space on your planet where you started building to free to build space. And the latter additional penalty to simulate the materials used already and the higher cost to level the terrain.

Wouldn't be bad if 14 / 15 ticks done, you only get a very small piece back.

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How about if it's the same tick, there's no penalty?  Decay/Bureau couldn't be abused and it would also allow people to adjust their starting builds much easier during pre-round, instead of having to reset if the family changes start build plans.

Anything after can be 50% maybe?  Perhaps it can be thought of as an agreement between your empire and the contractors.  50% up front and 50% when finished.  If cancelled at any point, you get half back no matter how soon or late it is.

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50% might be too harsh.. why would anyone ever cancell if theres a 50% penalty? they'd just let the units build.

If you put 50% penalty the only time people would cancel is if they screw up bigtime and buy millions of transports instead of droids for example.

If you put 20% then people might use it to adjust strategies as well. E.g. You see enemy made double your fighters. You cancel droid production and build less droids more fighters at the cost of units coming a bit later as well as 20% resources loss.

And you can avoid decay by stashing stuff on market anyways which only costs 10%.

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I like pie wrote:

How about if it's the same tick, there's no penalty?  Decay/Bureau couldn't be abused and it would also allow people to adjust their starting builds much easier during pre-round, instead of having to reset if the family changes start build plans.

Anything after can be 50% maybe?  Perhaps it can be thought of as an agreement between your empire and the contractors.  50% up front and 50% when finished.  If cancelled at any point, you get half back no matter how soon or late it is.

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U need a penalty otherwise ppl would start units or buildings start of tick and cancel them end of tick in order not to be opped during a war

80% refund looks good to me

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good point.  offensive ops are disabled during pre-round though right?  maybe we can have no penalty in pre-round?

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15 (edited by Jaguar 30-Aug-2012 17:20:03)

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Yes that would help with having to reset and stuff.

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yes before start of round refund could be 100%

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if u could implement that for infra, would save alot mod resets/rejoining of the fam tongue

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18 (edited by The Yell 31-Aug-2012 18:07:59)

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Make the refund 105% of the cost of the unit

that way every fam will have dedicated cancellers

half the players will do nothing productive at all each tic

then you can sell the game to Obama

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19 (edited by AnarchyAngel 04-Sep-2012 02:33:38)

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Or just build the units that you actually want to build and then it's not a problem.

There are way too many ways this could be abused with the current structure of gameplay.

P.S
I lost it hard on the "dedicated cancellers and sell the game to Obama" comment. LOL

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Re: refund for cancelled units being built

> AnarchyAngel wrote:

> Or just build the units that you actually want to build and then it's not a problem.

There are way too many ways this could be abused with the current structure of gameplay.



yes, thats the reason to place a harsh penalty, maybe you think 50% loss is too harsh, ok then 40%, but there must be a penalty, even in the same tic. 

Now seriously, do our devs have time to implement things to "correct" our mistakes?? I dont think so, maybe from 100 active players 1 of them builds the wrong numbers and wants to cancel, and only 1 player and once in a rl week, ...  I think its not worht to "spend" our devs time in this clumsy player when the other 99 arent' comitting this mistake.