"AND define Glory? If you mean meeting VIPS, and Celebrities WOOPDY DO."

no, i dont meen meeting VIP's and celebrities, i mean your abillity to make stupid claims like loyaleddie did earlier in this thread, that you so thoroughly agreed with him on.

"I chose a job that put my in harms way so you can enjoy the right to make retarded statements like you did."

if physical costs outweighed moral and emotional costs, slavery would still be legal.

> lmperial wrote:

> Ok retards.

Go read the OP again, obviously some of you are stupid, and don't comprehend the fact, i wasn't whining, I'm pointing out a curious fact, that Democracy was created with intent of cultural backed Political, Philosophical, and Scholastic understanding by the mass. - A comparison between the Origins, and the modern practice, and how it can be seen that this is NOT how democracy was intended to be practiced.

None of you fat boys can sit here and tell me, we are using democracy as it were intended, and that Modern day people were the demographics intended by the creators of Democracy.

Also, none of you have disputed the fact, that through visual stimulus people are controlled, and in turned the "Democratic" Process is control, Culture is promoting laziness and ineptness, making it all the more easier for Politicians, and Bias/Partisan sponsored medias, to control the out of the Democratic processes.

Before that, gangs/family would hired to bully people into voter fraud, and voter fraud was so common that some people voted more then 20 times.

THUS DEMOCRACY PRIMARILY AMERICAN HAS FAILED.

Christ, i thought it was pretty much out there.

The issue isn't if it goes the right or wrong way, Democracy fails, it is CURRENTLY the best system, but it's competition doesn't really even compare, in turn it's still not being used as intended.

I'm saying either 1 of 2 things.

Using democracy as intended, which is IMPOSSIABLE due to the Cultural gap between Modern practice, and Classic intentions.

Or a systematical forging of a new Government with Democratic inspired power balancing, and one that span any cultural gap..

Because lets fact it, with Technology comes large changes to culture, and with the recent boom that will continue, our culture will become even more out of tune with understanding the Political mainstream, allowing for the populace to be even more mold able to any one person's agenda.

"Or a systematical forging of a new Government with Democratic inspired power balancing, and one that span any cultural gap.."

thats what our Constitution was designed to be over 230 years ago...  and pretty well describes our government. yes, theres people not happy with parts of it; but its still has democratic inspired balancing, its stable and we're one of the richest nations in the world, and the most powerful militarily. overall, a pretty resounding success.

when our fore fathers created the current form of government in the US, they had no intention of creating what they had in Athens long ago. Just because "democracy" in america is different from what it was in Athens, doesnt mean it failed; its called progression. also, the idea that the masses in ancient athens were more educated then the masses in modern day US, is a joke.

can the US model be improved? yes. is it a failure? absolutely not. if you have an idea on how to improve it and not just some idealistic rant, we're all ears.

well, i dont think anyone here thinks the american government or any government for that matter is perfect. we all agree they can be improved. yet, you're posting a thread without posting an idea on how to improve it..... what was your intention?

the benefit of democracy and communism is they preach putting the power into the people's hands, so either can gain very wide support and make opposition futile. but if you promote a system where the power isnt in the people's hands, there will be no way to make it happen without military force. anything not at least appearing to be putting the power into the masses is doomed to fail in the US.

"I chose a job that put my in harms way so you can enjoy the right to make retarded statements like you did."

your chose to be a solider and performed so abominably that your country is embarressed by you. you put yourself in harms way and accomplished nothing but helping a politician fulfill a vendetta he had against Saddam. you helped your government waste way too much money.

imperial, do you really think this only exists in the US? its "democracy" in general and its a joke. and thats the closest thing to a compliment you'll get from me atm

well, i have no idea why you would consider me scum. its like i [shared cuddles] with a porno star like Imperial here.

and to the best of my knowledge i've never [snuggled] a married woman either.

"Why was every Obama thread i made closed?"

the one in general is open, noob...

"Being gay isn't natural"

while you can prove being black is natural, you couldnt prove that being black was being equal. the millitary didnt tolerate discrimination against blacks, and although it still happens, its not a big issue, and theres no reason not to do the same for gays. what does being natural have to do with anything? religion isnt natural, should the millitary not tolerate religion?

"She wasn't a porn star smart guy, we got married in 06, she was just a Model then, she didn't start porn till 08, during a Playboy T.V. Casting call he auditioned for a model, they offered her a spot as a porn star, after which one of the Directors, Stage name Cezar Capone, (Real Name Bill Fischer), Offered her an exclusive contract, she didn't turn it down, it's not like your typical Porn contracts, it's about a 200,000USD a year contract, working with someone who is close partners with J.Jamison, and Club Jenna, the purpose of the mention on the video is that THESE TYPE of women prey on the military, we were each other's first love, Christ you assume way too much."

well, whether when you got married she was a porn star or not, does not change the fact that you married someone who is a porn star, you married a porn star. so i wasnt wrong. if she was preying on you, she wasnt really in love was she? and you're probably too young to even know what love is.

btw, do you know any of the names of any of the videos she's in?