1 (edited by xeno syndicated 05-Nov-2008 20:43:50)

Topic: Sorry to rain on your parade Americans

You Americans think you've gotten a wildcard in office, someone different, an outsider who's somehow slipped into the White House under the nose of the war and oil-mongering elite.  However, with a quick search into Obama's family ties we see that Obama is probably one himself, or, at least in their grips:

1.  Lolo Soetoro (Obama's step father) worked for the Indonesian government, was an Indonesian military officer, and a geologist (and who knows what else) for Mobil Oil Corp.  2.  Barack Obama, Sr. (Obama's biological father) was also an oil company employee as well as a government finance officer in Kenya.  Is it only a coincidence that Obama's mother married 2 American Ivy League educated foreign students who ended up working in government and the oil industry back in their home countries?  3.  Ann Dunham herself (Obama's mother) was also an Ivy Leaguer, and was actually related (albeit distantly) to both Dick Cheney and President Harry S Truman.  Going back just a bit in his family tree tells me plainly that there is good reason to suspect that Obama, like the rest of the Presidents since the 19th century, is connected to some sort of bi-partisan political-elite through family and friend relationships who have a vested interest in oil, war, foreign governments and finance. 

Sorry to rain on your parade Americans, but do you really think anything will change?

2 (edited by xeno syndicated 05-Nov-2008 20:57:07)

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/me wonders what sorts of family and friend's military and oil assets or interests - or even INHERETED assets or interests that Obama himself has stashed away somewhere in some distant relative's name - that he is obligated to protect.

/me wonders why Obama's parents and step parents died so young.

/me wonders if Obama's grandmother, who just passed this week and who basically raised Obama, might not have had her death hastened unnaturally by those who want to remind Obama who it is that's really in charge.

/me wonders a lot

/me wonders why so many Americans do not

Re: Sorry to rain on your parade Americans

xeno syndicate, so long as he's not going to die of a heart attack in office and put Sarah Palin in charge, I'm fine if he should decide to shit on a dog (sorta, I don't think the dog would be happy or dog activists for that matter)

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Me wonders why there are so many haters.

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Re: Sorry to rain on your parade Americans

Sorry my ass.

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Of course! A secret board of 5 big oil companies have created a child, manipulated its family for decades and decades, steering life, death, love and marriage in a grand 40 year-plan to deliver an american president in 2008!

How could I not see this?



Seriously, how? yikes

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7 (edited by Gladiator 05-Nov-2008 22:00:13)

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yes xeno, a lot will change, we can start with a unified america and the high respect for american democracy and the restoration of america's status the freedom country where anyone can be anything... and don't forget the respect america has gained around the world by just electing obama

he's done all this already, he's not even president yet , and he's only been president elect for one day...

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>/me wonders a lot

/me wonders why so many Americans do not

Ok I undestand nearly every non-American hates America because we're full of ourselfs and evil and nosy or whatnot,
Which leaves me to wonder why any other country cares about our politics. Seriously, We don't deserve your attention.

and Americans usually have a negative attitude about conspiracy theories, which is why no American wonders.

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> [TI] ZoZferatu [Pw9] wrote:

> Of course! A secret board of 5 big oil companies have created a child, manipulated its family for decades and decades, steering life, death, love and marriage in a grand 40 year-plan to deliver an american president in 2008!

How could I not see this?



Seriously, how? yikes



Because your ignorance is another part of the vast oil conspiracy, in order to keep some skepticism about everything!

Then again, so is xeno's post, as it frames the so-called "conspiracy" as utter craziness.  smile

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Well of course Obama would have come from a rich background...

...What American President hasn't? You need LOTS of money to campaign for the presidency in that country...

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Ye and it's not Budweiser that will fund ur capaign, they'll sell same amout of beer that u win or lose.
When oil and weapon companies will have big interest to fund u. And once u got their money u have to obey more or less.
In most old demecracy countries campaigns are funded by the state, to make ppl elected more independant to big companies-

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12 (edited by Theodora 06-Nov-2008 05:29:43)

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> [TI] ZoZferatu [Pw9] wrote:

> Of course! A secret board of 5 big oil companies have created a child, manipulated its family for decades and decades, steering life, death, love and marriage in a grand 40 year-plan to deliver an american president in 2008!

How could I not see this?



Seriously, how? yikes




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> Hadn't you heard? Obama is the Kwisatz Haderach, designed to bring all races under the control of his masters.

Oh...Thought he was a Muslim spy trying to bring down the U.S. from the inside...

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"Ok I undestand nearly every non-American hates America because we're full of ourselfs and evil and nosy or whatnot,
Which leaves me to wonder why any other country cares about our politics. Seriously, We don't deserve your attention."

Say you live in a neighbourhood with an individual who owns a large amount of very dangerous weapons and who you suspect to be psychotic.  How closely would you watch that individual?

There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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lol,i always find these posts amusing.
it seems your jealously of us americans always come out during certain events that happen here.
why is it that we have immigrants from everywhere trying desperately to come to america?
because we are a great nation.
all of you want our freedom and cant admit it.
we are a young nation only around 230 years old and most of the nations bashing us are alot older.
and that is where the jealousy lies,our country is young,vibrant and growing while you old stale nations complain.

17 (edited by Gwynedd 07-Nov-2008 06:22:39)

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"Say you live in a neighbourhood with an individual who owns a large amount of very dangerous weapons and who you suspect to be psychotic.  How closely would you watch that individual?"

we arent your neighbor (assuming you're not canadian or mexican inwhich case your example sucks, because Canada and Mexico wouldnt never be targets), [banned language is bad, m'kay]

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> DPS wrote:

> "Ok I undestand nearly every non-American hates America because we're full of ourselfs and evil and nosy or whatnot,
Which leaves me to wonder why any other country cares about our politics. Seriously, We don't deserve your attention."

Say you live in a neighbourhood with an individual who owns a large amount of very dangerous weapons and who you suspect to be psychotic.  How closely would you watch that individual?



Thanks buddy you just legitimized Iraq, and other on-going campaigns <3

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> Thanks buddy you just legitimized Iraq, and other on-going campaigns <3

How come there were no WMDs found then? tongue.

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"we arent your neighbor (assuming you're not canadian or mexican inwhich case your example sucks, because Canada and Mexico wouldnt never be targets), [banned language is bad, m'kay]"

Neighbourhood was a metaphor for the global community.  P.S. I am Canadian and we're one of the more likely targets; small military, abundance of natural resources, generally apathetic population.  Hell we might as well make a sign saying "Invade Here"

"Thanks buddy you just legitimized Iraq, and other on-going campaigns <3"

No I legitimized observation of a potentially dangerous entity in order to avoid harm, Iraq was inventing a threat so you could beat the crap out of someone you just didn't like.

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"country where anyone can be anything"

If the US was really a country where anyone can be anything, why is it that pretty much all the presidents of the united states are born with a silver spoon in their mouth, go to ivy league unis / west point / military academies / have military career / connections and interests with the corporate world.  Name one president in the last 30 years who didn't go to an ivy league school / military academy, who never had anything to do with military indoctrination, who was a regular CIVILIAN and not a soldier, who came from a regular MIDDLE CLASS family, who got elected by the PEOPLE for the PEOPLE, and not by the CORPORATE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX for THE CORPORATE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.   Please.  Name one president who exemplified the so called 'In America, anyone can become anyone.' motto.  Please, name one president who and actually start out as a 'anyone' and became 'president'.

Who Americans brainwash yourselves with your constant "Land of the Free" and the "American Dream" and "Anyone can become Anyone" hogwash, and stayed hypnotically glued to the election coverage for, what, how many months now? 10?  20? leaving little air-time for the literally MILLIONS of infinitely more important news items going on in the world right now.

Don't you ever wonder what the effects might be of an election campaign which takes an entire nation's attention away from other international news items?  Don't Americans ever wonder what else other government officials or agencies or nations or coporations might be doing while your attenion is diverted?  What a great time it is for them to go ahead and slip passed the American attention the plans they don't want the American public to think about very much, like, let's say, just as an example, a GLOBAL FINANCIAL RIP-OFF SCHEME by your own AMERICAN MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.

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Ronald Reagan.

Jimmy Carter and Ike went to the service academies which is nothing like Harvard or Princeton. US officers are always in college.

Harry Truman was basically a state boss who inherited the throne.   And Ford was a flight deck officer in WW2 when he got started. Nixon was just a supply officer.

I guess the main and last example of your ideal President was Ulysses S Grant, a failed shopkeeper, failed lawyer, wood chipper who made it big in our worst war to date because he had the guts and heartlessness and cunning to fight like Hell.

But he did not have the training to deal with men freed of a professional code of honesty and competence, he was neiither trained nor prepared for a city full of hostile equals and treacherous subordinates, and he is remembered as a weak President because of all the crimes of his underlings.

In our political system we don't listen to a leader because of who his dad was.  There has to be a sense that this guy is a driving force, who would be uncomfortable and difficult to cross, who is respected for that by a ot of others, but for that reason, can herd cats and get things done by people less eager and decisive, who rewards loyalty, and could be approached with an idea from below if he isn't committed in his own mind.   Part of that is animal charisma and a lot of it is a discipline of the mind.   We have schools for organization in this country, forprofit schools that teach you how to run any company like an army general staff.

Once you can get a grubstake, say like $10,000 then earning money becomes systemic and automatic. Wealth is a sign you got your wiring together. No measure of morals of course but a guy who can herd a million bucks isn't farting his way through life. Unless he sells 200,000 fart vidoes for $5 each.

We have the most open and renewable system on earth I think, if I'm down on it its because we got stupid.

Some of us do keep an eye on the whole world, we're mocked for not having a REAL life.

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"Neighbourhood was a metaphor for the global community.  P.S. I am Canadian and we're one of the more likely targets; small military, abundance of natural resources, generally apathetic population.  Hell we might as well make a sign saying "Invade Here""

And we haven't tried since the War of 1812, which was more about the land and the release of British influence in the Americas rather than your natural resources.  Likely target?  I hardly doubt it.  We've probably got the friendliest relationship ever.  Hell, we don't even have a fence between us, haha.

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> Hell, we don't even have a fence between us, haha.

THe Aussies and Kiwis don't have a fence between them either X(.

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Yeah and you guys get flooded because of it

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.