Just curious... how long's it been since a PvC was actually written for this round? 

Nah, it's all about Destroy Iron and Destroy Cash this round. 

Nevermind.   Just got killed off in SD.  Perhaps we could get a warning page for that?  "Yeah, you got wasted."

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For my side campaign:

Name: Davice Trannyth
Race: Human
Class: Level 1 Rogue/Wizard
Alignment: Neutral Good
Max HP: 10

Base stats:
Strength: 13
Intelligence: 18 {20} (+2 for circlet)
Dexterity: 17
Constitution: 13
Wisdom: 13
Charisma: 13

Skills:
Skill: Skill Points Used {Total modifier} (Accounting of all modifiers)
Concentration 4 {5} (+1 for Wis)
Disable Device 4 {9} (+5 for Int)
Open lock 4 {9} (+5 for Int)
Search 4 {9} (+5 for Int)
Escape Artist 2 {7}
Knowledge (arcana) 2 {9} (+5 for Int., +2 for Collegiate Wizards)
Gather Information 4 {5} (+1 for Char.)
Hide 4 {7} (+3 for Dex)
Use Magic Device 4 {5} (+1 for Wis)
Move Silently 4 {7} (+3 for Dex)
Tumble 4 {7} (+3 for Dex)
Bluff 4 {8} (+1 from Char, +3 from Familiar)
Sleight of Hand 4 {7} (+3 for Dex)
Spellcraft 4 {11} (+5 for Int, +2 for Collegiate Wizards)
Sense Motive 0 {4} (+1 ffrom Char, +3 from item)

Feats:
Collegiate Wizards
(+2 Spellcraft and Concentration, +2 new spells/level)

Precocious Apprentice
(One level 2 spell slot/+1 level 2 spell slot)

Equipment:
Rapier
Shortbow
20 Arrows
Spell Component Pouch
Bedroll
Silk Rope
Waterskin
Thieves' tools
Traveler's Clothing
Scholar's Outfit
Winter furs
Total weight: 32
GC remaining: 275.9

Special items:
Circlet
1: +3 to any one skill (Bluff)
2: +2 enhancement bonus to Intelligence
3: Alicritious Cogitation feat (one spell slot is reserved for the spell of my choice)

Necklace
1 reroll per day

Scroll Organizer
Carries 15 scrolls, pulling scrolls is a free action

Blue Robe
+3 Max HP
+1 caster level on Divination spells

Modifiers:
Attack roll: 1 (+1 from Strength)
Damage roll: 1 (+1 from Strength)
AC: 13 (+3 from Dexterity)
Initiative: 3 (+3 from Dexterity)
Fortitude: 1 (+1 from Constitution)
Will: 3 (+2 from Wizard, +1 from Wisdom)
Reflex: 5 (+2 from Rogue, +3 from Dexterity)

Familiar: Snake (+3 Bluff)
Focus: Divination (sacrificing Necromancer)

Current spellbooks
Spellbook 1: 32/100 pages used
Level 0:
No change (all spells in the PHB)
Watcher's Eye

Level 1:
Identify
Shield
Alarm
Disguise Self
Mage Armor
Insightful Feint
Magic Missile
Expeditious Retreat
Jump
Persistent Blade

Level 2:
Bull's Strength

Current spells/day
Level 0: 3+1 Divination
Level 1: 1+2 (Int. modifier) +1 Divination
Level 2: 0+1 (Precocious Apprentice, must be Bull's Strength)

Special note: One spell in daily list can be an open spell (don't need to pre-select spell)

*posts*

Seriously, though, does anyone know the record for the most iron lost to Destroy Iron?

> xeno syndicated wrote:

> oh my

Zarf is an f-mod, now?

Just a few days ago. 

@WFS

They're not talking about "getting rid of" art.  Art can and does exist at the private level.  Hell, I'd say the very fact that it exists means it has some value (Imperial Conflict provides a service customers enjoy, despite having no necessary benefits to society).  The question at hand is, essentially, whether art provide a public service which warrants use of public funds.  If the only people benefited by art, for example, are the people engaged in the transaction, the business transaction which created the art would be the only incentive needed for the artist to produce the art.  To justify public funding of art, you would need to show a significant enough public benefit for art that's not compensated through the exchange.

Now, art classes, I'm not sure I agree with OP on.  Public schools are made, essentially, to give people a trade.  Some people are talented at writing.  Some are talented in auto repair.  Remember, people have natural talents and weaknesses.  You can't force everyone to be a scientist, unless you want a ton of terrible scientists.  But since there are people who like art, it means art is a product which people are willing to pay to obtain, making it both a useful item and thus a useful trade.  If we don't consider art a trade in the sense that it offers a service people request for some joy, the same logic could be applied against dozens of industries meant solely to provide entertainment.  But... if it's a trade that people are willing to pay for, and it doesn't hurt anyone, why not teach it as a possible future for people?

You write eulogies for a living, don't you? 

Yup!

Damon?

> Justinian I wrote:

> > Zarf BeebleBrix wrote:

Afghanistan is laughing at you right now.>

Afghanistan rebels:
1. Have a lot better weaponry than Texas civilians
2. Enjoy mountainous terrain
3. Political organization is broadly distributed
4. Are funded by other states
5. The people are more intelligent than Texans

So it really doesn't count as a comparison. If they were to fight with legal firearms, they would get pwned. But they are fighting with military weapons, enjoy terrain advantages, and are fighting a guerrilla war.

1: You're confusing the phases of the war.  Afghanistan was fighting the Soviets with very low-tech weaponry, but when it gathered the credibility against the Soviets, it began to obtain those other weapons from foreign support.
2: Conceded here.  That being said, this is a situation unique to Texas... it doesn't affect the argument as a whole.  If we were talking about the Western states or Appalachian states, it would be different.
3: Considering the distributed political organization triggered years of infighting, that's not necessarily a good thing.  But even if you don't want to buy that argument, local units can definitely develop within the larger political organization.
4: Not from day 1, as mentioned above.
5: Purely a matter of opinion... but still, this is only with regards to the Texas scenario, not necessarily an inictment of the gun argument as a whole.