1,876

(147 replies, posted in Politics)

And Justinian, you and Macchiavelli should put a sock in your mouth. Read another bloody book (one that's slightly more up to date perhaps?), rather than quote and misquote 1 over and over again wink

Also, American Empire?
Das Viertes Reich? Is that what you're going for? tongue

1,877

(147 replies, posted in Politics)

"the dismantlement of the palestinian/Israeli state is the only thing that will bring lasting peace. Those muslims were all dumped there because it is a hell hole and they continually want more."


Nay, the Levant area was always an area where Muslims, Christians and Jews coexisted. This was never really a problem for the Ottoman ruler (or the Mamlukes before that, or in fact any muslim leader). It only started to become a problem in WWI. The British promised both the Jewish and Muslim people an own country there, if they started to fight the Ottoman leadership. After WWI, more Jews moved back thinking they'd soon get the land. Instead the British and French divided the lands among themselves, not really inclined to give it to the people. After WWII, Europe felt they ought to repay the Jewish somehow, and this was the start for more migration to that area. Soon the Jewish immigrants and war survivors, on the old promise of WWI, claimed it as theirs and formed the country of Israel. Also, the palestinian state is not yet officially internationally recognised.

Now as for the claims of the Jewish people for calling it "their" land, recent historic studies have shown that the Jewish area of biblical times must have been way smaller than the Bible or the Jewish themselves always claimed. For this I refer to "Diabolic Digest", a site where one of the Guardian's middle-east experts publishes his articles for his own as well (the layout is crap, I've told him a billion times).

As for my opinion: I think (based on the historic background of both parties) that they both deserve the right to be there. However, the Jewish have driven the Palestinians to the dry areas and killed the palestinian state economicly, and some dtastic changes in borders should be made. Also, the kibbuts and the wall should be demolished in long terms. If peace is the one and only goal they're going for.
The current attacks in Ghaza against Hamas is out of proportion and should stop immediatly. Hamas is a monster Israel created for not wanting to make compromizes in the past, and like the IRA, it'll never truely end if nothing else changes.

1,878

(145 replies, posted in Politics)

May I remind you that the only way I'm leaving this thread open is when there's a serious discussion going on. If more people start flaming, or trolling, it'll be closed.. This thread's on a sharp edge, the slightest mistake, and it's dead..

1,879

(3 replies, posted in General)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln-Douglas_debate

There, all the help people are going to bother with tongue

1,880

(2 replies, posted in Community)

this is a double thread - closed

1,881

(52 replies, posted in General)

Why would you imply I'm racist Joor? Your campaign to discredit (f)mods should stop, it's our fault you got de-fmodded....

No, I just don't like women that look more plastic than anything else. Colour has nothing to do with it.....
I hate these conclusions. I make 1 remark about a particular woman (who happens to be black), and suddenly I'm racist....

1,882

(52 replies, posted in General)

I agree with Eltie there.

1,883

(2,376 replies, posted in General)

Morrissey - First of the gang to die

1,884

(52 replies, posted in General)

from questions to general with this!

1,885

(31 replies, posted in General)

All I'm trying to say is that there could be a whole bunch of things that could explain it, and that it's pointless as we have no idea who or when the footage was shot. Yet, the youtube idiots immediatly seem to look into the corner of UFOs (it'll be only a matter of timebefore someone utters it) tongue

1,886

(31 replies, posted in General)

"pixies has fair point with the trail.. isn't it just a plane far out?"

Not at all..
The trail could easily be due the framerate..

1,887

(31 replies, posted in General)

It does yeah..

1,888

(31 replies, posted in General)

"Im not talking about the vertical streaks flickering"

me neither...

If you want an elaborate answer:
First thing we see is that this thing is made on pelicule right? If we magnify a frame of pelicule you'll see that it's surface is rather grainy and uneven. This makes your images slightly distorted. This medium, depending on when it was filmed has an own framerate as well.
When it's digitalised, it films the running film again. Again, in a set framerate.

The thing you see passing is most likely a result of all those things..
I'm betting it's the edge of the pelicule's border or an adhesive tape that was sometimes used; they get slightly reflected. Or perhaps it's some sort of damage (wich is not unthinkable when you see the damaged lines all the time) that's caused by showing the film before. Since both machines run on different framespeeds, it looks like a travelling object.

1,889

(31 replies, posted in General)

"Im not talking about the vertical streaks flickering"

me neither...

1,890

(126 replies, posted in General)

However it's pulled out of it's context of the album (wich makes it sound odd), I'd like to present you Noise:

Boredoms - ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u2qQeyoYRw

Sonic Youth - The diamond sea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwdJZwzkPX0

1,891

(126 replies, posted in General)

But terrible tongue

1,892

(126 replies, posted in General)

Anyhoo, if we widen the topic to all sorts of hard guitar music, I can participate as well big_smile

Drone/Noise rock: Lightning Bolt - 2 moro moro land
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MhRj_48-7w

Drone blues: The Black Angels - Young men dead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atk4Q2FNSbA

1,893

(31 replies, posted in General)

It's nothing Pixies.
It's just distortion caused by the granules of pellicule, wich was then digitalised.. I've seen odder things smile

1,894

(13 replies, posted in General)

"could people explain why it's supposed to be a craapy movie"

It's just not a good one.... For me, it's just another poorly made superhero movie with a different mood to it...

1,895

(126 replies, posted in General)

I was wondering about that too, but I think I don't want to know the answer.....

1,896

(10 replies, posted in General)

Hurrah!

1,897

(13 replies, posted in General)

Somehow The Crow obtained a sort of cult status (I guess it's quite logical with that entire Brandon Lee incident), but it's a crappy film....

1,898

(1,133 replies, posted in General)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5859/1205449533ph8.jpg

1,899

(11 replies, posted in General)

1. What was your favorite movie of 2008?

I didn't went to the movies this year, I think. So, I'll stick with the good old "Le fabuleux destin d'Am

1,900

(28 replies, posted in General)

And that's an underestimation!!!!