It's pretty sad. But it's what the sheeple have been voting for for decades. Most Amerikans deserve what's coming.

Cougar, the church is protesting the government infringing their rights. They're not trying to "get involved with the law," ie. write laws. They're simply filing suit over their rights being violated.

The church isn't trying to make anybody do anything.

Ron Paul is against healthcare mandates, including this one.

There's no question. If you vote for a Republican or Democrat, you're a sheep.

We didn't achieve this debt by picking the right guy half the time.

Holder isn't being allowed to violate the law (the AG no less!) because Republicans are holding him accountable.

Our civil rights haven't been eroded for decades because Republicans or Democrats are fighting to uphold the Constitution and protect them.

We don't send our young men and women to be casualties of war in nations which are no threat to us because Republicans or Democrats have values and give a damn about morality or our servicemen.

Conservation and environmental protection are good.

Most "green" organizations today don't give a damn about the environment.

And I'm only making fun of his poor education because he's a troll who won't engage in a dialogue anyway.

There's no apostrophe in the plural of "tree." It's "trees." The "s" suffix denoting plurality is mega common in the English language. I look forward to helping you learn this wonderful language.

Romney is the best candidate... At being almost as bad as Obama.

Einstein, you'd have to be severely mentally retarded to not be aware that you haven't responded to a bloody thing I've said on these topics in more than a month.

Stop crying. Grow up.

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Cougar, I agree that obviously racism can be unspoken but indirectly implied. But such allegations--and I don't dispute it happens--must be judged on the individual merits of that particular case. As I said, I don't give a damn if Gingrich is a racist--I despise him either way. I'm not disputing your claims that he is, I'm only saying that Perez Hilton is retarded trash who can't make a case.

I believe that some of the black incarceration rate in the USA is due to criminality being more common among many black communities (PURELY for CULTURAL reasons). Of course, I don't dispute racism happens either. But to blame racism for 100% of the disproportionately high incarceration rate, I think, would be as ignorant as blaming culture in various black communities for 100% of it.

I do believe it's a fact that racism is inherently evil. It's inherently ignorant, it's inherently hateful, and it's inherently harmful. I'm just kicking around some ideas, not disagreeing that it's real, and that it ought to be fought. It's certainly true that it exists in more hidden forms than KKK asshats in hoods.

I wouldn't bother with Einstein. He's just trolling or his brain short-circuited. He brought up Libertarian topics more than a month ago and I layed out my views on drug use and homosexuality. He literally never responded to a single point or argument I made, yet he has the childish, embarrassing arrogance to pretend he's won a debate that he refused to take any part in. It's just awkward and stupid. You can't have a conversation with a child throwing a tantrum.

Einstein:
"Go ask people around you, are you voting for Mitt or Paul." "Nuff sais there."

...What? Obama was elected into office, so he's clearly the best? Our current/previous leaders got us massively into debt with unsustainable welfare programs; but they did get elected, so they're clearly the best?

"A libertarian would allow an explosives laden truck to be driven by an 18 year old new driver with 20 hours of constant driving through your neighborhood because they are anti-regulation."

Stupid straw-man argument. No, they wouldn't.

"If Kemp drove a truck for 1 year he would come back here, apologize to me, renounce Libertarianism, and embrace Conservatism."

For someone who doesn't know that "you're" and "your" are different words with different meanings, you're awfully cocky. For someone who literally will not respond to a single point I make, you're awfully cocky. For someone who frequently abandons threads when he's been explained indisputably to have made absolutely false claims, you're awfully cocky. For someone who just name-calls and cannot back up his name-calling, you're awfully cocky.

You haven't, even once, ATTEMPTED to argue for conservative (ie social, anti-drug, anti-homosexual) values vs libertarian values. To every point I made in favor of Libertarian values, you didn't respond to a single one. It takes a lot of intellectual cowardice and childish arrogance to follow that up with appeals to authority (If you did what I did, if you knew what I do....) that damnit, you know better. You can't/won't ever actually explain your position or respond to nearly ANYTHING I say, but damnit, you know better!

We're on a discussion forum. Give it up. If you can't even make a case, even a poor one, you've got nothing. You haven't even tried. Not on any topic Libertarians disagree with Conservatives on. Not once, given all of my posts and responses and explanations.

It's gotten just stupid, because you've literally conceded everything I've said on every Libertarian topic. You've responded to absolutely NONE of the many points I've made regarding drug policy, homosexuality, or Ron Paul (to the extent that he ties into Libertarianism) for more than a month. Yet you continually run from those discussions and come back later with more stupid straw-man beating marathons as if Libertarians are inherently against DUI laws or antibiotics. You run from every discussion without responding to a single argument or point yet come back later with arrogant whining about how Libertarians are every misspelled bad word you can think of.

Not once have you responded to arguments and points made in their favor against your positions. Not once. Yet you keep spamming/trolling a discussion forum arrogantly/ignorantly/stupidly/embarrassingly as if you have.

Cougar,

perezhilton.com is absolute trash. Newt Gingrich IS absolute garbage, but the first ignorant whining I read when I clicked that link disgusted me. There ARE cultural problems predominant in poor black communities in America. Some of these problems ARE far more prevalent in black communities than most Asian communities and some "Latino" communities. Acknowledging and discussing these CULTURAL issues is not racist.

Again, Gingrich is a phony, trashy, unprofessional dipshit. But to ignorantly pretend that talking about the cultural differences predominant among Asian/black poor communities which give Asians much more upward mobility is not racist. It's not even a bad thing. Mr. Hilton is an idiotic, trashy, unprofessional dipshit as well. Maybe Gingrich has said dumb racist things (I could hardly care less, since I already despise him), but Mr. Hilton's ignorant trash is intellectually offensive and morally disgusting.

Edit: Gingrich's english is even terribly poor/ambiguous (or maybe just wrong) in the first quote. But his point [in that quote] isn't racist, it's cultural.

Einstein is more of a "big spender" than Rep. Paul. Pointing this out to him will result in name-calling Rep. Paul a "big spender," regardless of the fact that it's just not true by any definition or mathematical framework.

Washington is filled with people like Einstein, who are willfully ignorant or willfully stupid when it comes to getting along with their fellow party members. Corruption and stealing from future generations doesn't work unless everyone is involved!

Ron Paul is more fiscally conservative [to my knowledge] than any other member of Congress. [I did ask for an example of someone more fiscally conservative. Einstein was unable to provide one] Absolutely every single way you can try to do the math backs up this claim. I might support a little more international military presence (if we could get our act together, which we won't), but even with such a reduction in Rep. Paul's supported cuts, he'd STILL be, by FAR, the most fiscally conservative guy in the room.

Calling him a "big spender" is just ignorant and stupid. And you know it, Einstein. Calling him names is just childish and stupid. You know he's not a big spender. You've had this pointed out to you and explained. You didn't respond or dispute a word of it. You've been asked for examples of who's more fiscally conservative. You didn't provide one single example.

You know you're making false statements. Instead of getting mad and calling people names, maybe you should think about why the truth upsets you so much.

No where did you say anything in my post?

How could you? I'm logged in as me, you're logged in as you.

And YOU're accusing OTHERS of being on drugs, mentally disabled, paranoid, schizo (spelled wrong), hallucinogenic (spelled wrong) simpletons?

Try harder. You're just embarrassing yourself. You're incoherent. What you just said literally makes no sense. You refuse to address the subject matter directed to you. But damn can you throw an incomprehensible tantrum!!

"The most intelligent and most ethical individuals perceive the following first: due to the systemically unjust structure of civilization, the pursuit and fulfillment of individual economic opportunity inevitably comes at the expense of economic opportunity of others."

hhahahha he's a cocky ignorant kid. He's like a 14 year old Wiccan offering you the secrets of the universe. Is this the desired level of discourse on this forum, that of dumb pre-teens and early teens? Ignore the spammer. Do it out of self-respect. Do it out of respect for others. Do it out of embarrassment. Just do it.

Edit: He can't be serious. This is why we know he's trolling. Or SO stupid we shouldn't encourage him to speak in public. The absolute retardation of what he posts is over-the-top. He's talking about the productivity of man like it's static and economic activity is a zero-sum-game. FIVE YEAR OLDS are smarter than that. It's not worth even explaining here. It's not a matter of opinion that when I go out and produce something that others judge worth paying me for, I've not stolen. Nobody was hurt that I produced something and was thanked by society in the forum of currency for my labor. It's a fact that things like this are false and absolutely stupid. It's a fact that, trolling or genuinely retarded, we shouldn't be letting this forum be pulled down to this level.

Einstein hates Ron Paul because he's everything Romney should be but isn't. Einstein is ashamed of his lack of the intellectual will to accurately assess Republican's failures for many decades. I speak of the 16 trillion dollar debt they're more interested in increasing than fighting.

The notion that Romney supports more freedom than Paul is absolutely, 100% retarded.

BTW, the money Paul takes in earmarks:
1) Would be spent anyway; it would just go somewhere else, if he refused it
2) His constituents payed for, so they deserve it as much as whoever else would get it if they refused
3) Is a tiny part of our deficits, and NOT the major problems we need to deal with to balance our budgets (problems which Ron Paul argues vehemently against)

You hate Paul because he stands for actual freedom, not the bedroom-police, corporate-whore, war-monger "freedom" of a big organization you found to comfort you by supporting. You support their corruption, cronyism, complete lack of ideals or backbone to support their "ideals," their wars, and in return you get to belong to the club. Your boy Boehner isn't interested in holding Holder in contempt, because he's a corrupt piece of shit. Your boy Reince Priebus is either ignorant of the historical facts in this country surrounding the civil rights movement for blacks and the gay rights crying of homosexuals today, or is a god-awful speaker. Great choice for chairman.

The worst things Ron Paul has ever done were to associate with the Republican party and lie about his newsletter. Of course, suckers like you only vote for Republicans and actually believe that bullshit about his newsletter, so maybe he's just being a crafty politician at a cost to his honesty.

The sad fact is, as flawed as he is, he's still better than 99% of Republicans, including you. And this makes you furious.