" Only Russia isn't the US, so it should be stomped in turn.
Now THATS hypocritical."

Only if I had ever said "Oh the USA is your servant, we are all one big blue marble under the rainbow and citizens of one happy world".

Which I never do.

>>Who supported an invasion? I only see self-defense and the defense of the two areas in question. Neither wants to be apart of Georgia, and Georgia was stupid to try military action.<<

Ah, "defense" of two areas which are still not independent, only being dependent on Moscow is so much more permanent.

>>America could take on Russia but do you want a nuclear war?<<

Acceptable.  Nuclear war is preferrable to many global systems.  That's why we have them.

>>ok well just make sure if you have a 100% way of making sure the war stays conventional. the slightest slip-up & thank you America for sending the world back to the stone age.<<

...or else what?  "America you turned the Earth to a glass desert--you're out of FIFA!"

>>Why? So you can spend 99 years aiming weapons at someone you are too afraid to attack? <<

Not me,  I'd bomb on them today.  Shaaksvili said the airbase and port we use for aid shipments would be under US military control and Bush said "Hell no."  Mustn't derail Munich II, you know.

>>So...Russia cant keep the peace right next door, but the U.S. is allowed to travel right around the world? Yeah, right.<<

Yup. Because we kill people who stop us.  Or used to, in the good old days.

>>What would have the U.N. done? Nothing. They are useless.

So for the same reason the U.S. attack Iraq, Russia stomped on Georgia.<<
Only Russia isn't the US, so it should be stomped in turn.

>Yes because the US has never, ever supported rogue groups in sovereign nations, nope not once.<<

so, Anything Goes? Or you're just enemies of the United States, too?

>>Russia now IS stronger than Georgia. And since Georgia gets no help, Russia stays stronger. Thus, the claim the Russians make is as legitimate as the claim the EU and the US made when separating Kosovo. You could nearly say that Russia is creating an alternative intervening peace-force, since a lot of people no longer like the aid of the US in gaining independence (or, sometimes, EU) as they tend to be picky and stick around too long. I can also see China joining the club as it has also certain provinces who would like independence...<<

Apparently Serbia won't renounce Kosovar genocide though, making it somewhat hard to reunite them, and Kosovo nor Serbia were remade into US territories.
In any event, it is not for a two-bit backward culture like Russia to presume the privileges of a first-class power like the US, and Bush is a dweeb for forgetting that.

>>yeah and those stupid frence that helped the usa to get independence... hell that was against international law! the whole fight against england was againts international law... evil teorists
reunited the us with england asap <<

France declared war on the UK at that time and helped us as an act of war.  Which is what I want, a war with Russia if they don't surrender.

>>If our fleet moves toward Russia, it would be stupid for Taiwan to not surrender.<<

With this crew, the fleet would just take photos and warn them they'd risked their privileges in the NWO.

When are Fmods gonna get to use HTML code???

"then they must have payed Georgians inetrior minister who claimed a few hours bevor russian attacked that his troops controll most of south ostsetia now, that heavy fighting is going on and that his troops almost controll the capital...
also the Georgia Tv stationes in georgia who were showing firing aterleri the whole night must be faked...
interesting is that Saakashvili anounced a ceasefire 3 hours bevor his troops started adavncing"

it's the notion "Georgian army in Ossetia justifies Russian army in Tblisi" that gets us confused. 

America is a fraud full of gibbering cowards without honor.  That's clear.  I ask people, "Suppose Bush just declared war on Russia, what would it do?"  "You're insane! Gas would skyrocket! we are bogged down in Afghanistan and Iraq! There's nothing we could do!!"  I say, we don't need to conquer Russia, we can wreck it, take out its pipelines, wreck the port of Vladivostock, wreck the transsiberan railway, start forest fires in the Arctic, smash its airfields---and that with our fleet, it has no overseas air bases, it has no global navy, if the Russian fleet sailed out to do battle it would be the most lopsided fight since the Battle of Manila where we sank the Spanish pacific fleet and lost 2 guys to a lucky shot.  Bomb its economy to standstill and do billions of dollars of damage until it pulled out of Georgia. "NO!! Logistically impossible, nobody would agree to help us, no leader is talking like that, and what about their nukes??"  "A nuclear attack gets a nuclear response."  "NO you're insane your just babbling"

So that is SENSE in America, just so you know and understand: we can't fight Russia.  No matter what.  Align yourselves accordingly.  Turkey, for instance, could probably get HUGE terms from Moscow for leaving NATO. After all, the cowards in the US and Europe wouldn't fight for Turkey, so why should Turkey put its ass on the firing line? It was neutral in WWII and only joined NATO cause it knew Russia historically wanted the Dardenelles and was spouting World Communist Revolution.

And through it all Bush and the smart set in Washington, including McCain, still think Russia will help us contain Iran.  Because as I'm told, "capitalism needs stability" and Iranian nukes will bring instability.  Crap, who sold Iran its reactors?  Who told VP Gore to STFU when he said selling nuclear tech to Iran was naughty, 10 years ago?  Nuclear Iran = USA never fights Iran like we never fight Russia = 500,000 man Iranian army can go where it likes = Irans neighbors (anybody in missle range) appease Iran = US Navy out of the Persian Gulf and Central Command out of Central Asia =  Russia rid of the pesky Yankees in the backyard.

It's 1938 all over again.  I'm glad I don't live in Taiwan.

They quit because the Pope was going to elevate a new Cardinal in the United States and they got Stefan to oppose it.

Nope! doesn't matter, they yearn to be free and that clearly requires some third party to butt in and bomb some city apartment buildings.  We deal in peoples here,not majorities.

BTW

its news to me the UK Guardian was part of the international Jew media but I guess the "Facts" are known

I hadn't heard Russia was going to liberate Ossetia.  Just kick Tblisi's folks out.  Then squat on it.

USA lets you "drop citizenship" by leaving.  You can't avoid taxes or the draft by renouncing US citizenship. (yes they tried)

Skoe? don't you hear the indigenous peoples crying out for liberation? That's cause you're not KGB trained!

"now let the facts talk for themselves"

already addressed those "facts".

"responsible for ridiculous amounts of deaths on purpose and supposedly one of the holy men christians look up to. i guess that says a whole lot about christanity, doesn't it?"

I'll bite, what Crusade did John Paul II launch?

The Bear: "How dare you arm our prey!"

US is sending humanitarian mission with an embassy-evacuation force. Huzzah.

Condi rice is going to France to see if Georgia can collapse before she gets there, if not, she'll have to go there and ask them to fall down. Huzzah.

"Besides, as if the U.S. could even touch the Russians ."

We could wreck their economy and all they could do is launch nukes, or nothing.

"You wouldnt when they slaughtered Georgia, you wont when the next conflict arrises."

I'm sure Putin counts on it.

"So dont act superior to Britain or France. You guys are just as weak as the rest of the world."

We're not that weak, but if we won't kill our enemies, then we might as well be.

"This isnt a small village or city [sillyperson], its two entire regions. Both have been working independently of Georgia for over a decade.

I *really* dont know what you have been smoking, since this isnt the 50s and Georgia only has a political hold."

So what? It's Georgia, and Georgia is our pal.

"They had to ensure the saftey of their own people, as well as the saftey of those people with Russian passports. Are they supposed to sit back and watch these people get slaughtered?"

They issued Russian passports to this "independent" population who they also don't recognize.

"They kept the peace."

They fronted for the buildup of separatist armies and coordinated their operations.  Heard of Russian units firing on Akzakian or Ossetian troops? No? That means they got the same radio net.  WE learned that the hard way in Grenada in 1983.  This is a pure KGB maskirovka, just like the Afghan "appeal" for Soviet paratroopers in 1979.

"And anyway, The U.S. and the coalition had no right to invade Iraq either. Desperate times call for desperate measures."

Apart from the rules of that Mickey Mouse organization in Turtle Bay, Saddam violated the terms of the ceasefire he gave Schwarzkopf.

"Why should Russia limit itself to a small area when the Georgian military is operating from their entire country? I say congradulations to Russia, for nipping this in the butt before too many reinforcements arrived or before the situation got even worse."

And I look forward to Indonesian liberation of indigenous peoples from Australian oppression.  By force. 

"In Georgia itself no. In the two disputed territories, maybe."

Yeah so the Kremlin said. The Kremlin lies through its ass, who'd have thought?  Russians are looting Gori right now.

"As many as it wants in self-defense."

About sixty years too late for this attitude aren't you? You owe a big apology to Guadacanal vets for the aggression against the Divine Emperor that necessitated the bombing of Sydney harbor.

I'll agree though Skoe, we clearly ignored the need to kill our enemies without reference to French "mediation" that won't even name an aggressor here.  We know it doesn't work and our leadership doesn't care, apparently.  We do have enough force outside Iraq to shred 3 Russian armor divisions in Georgia, and that's all that's needed right now.

Oh, and next time you complain "USA won't send peacekeepers to Polynesia" print it out, roll it real tight, and shove it out of sight.

"funny. here i was remembering distinctly that germany fought against soviet union in the 40's too.."  Yes, in the 40's.  In 1939 though you were glad to take the arms.

It certainly doesn't need "peacekeepers" from a neighbor who lays claim to it. 

How much land do your peacekeepers take in Polynesia?