1,251

(23 replies, posted in Politics)

ET

you need to inform yourself of the whole case rather than going for the textual equivalent of a soundbite. The article in question was a pretty scathing document on the activities of mining companies in Congo in general. The magazine was acquitted for writing this. They were only condmned for a minute aspect of their publication that was held to be seperate from the article as such, namely a cartoon that was published on the cover of the magazine of a man called Forrest, who is a very influential person in the Congo.

Regardless of what you may think about the condemnation of the cartoon, you cannot claim that this is censorship. That's idiotic since it is only censorship if the publication had been halted prior to publication.

As for the freedom of expression aspect. The reasoning behind it is actually very american - litteral. The article of the constitution was drafted with writers in mind and not cartoonists, so there was an acquital on the part of the writing but not on the part of the imaging.

The magazine was convicted because the judges felt the drawing was slanderous to mr. Forrest as a private person and therefor gave him a moral compensation of 1 euro. I would say that the judgement is incorrect since mr. Forrest actually is one of the people engaged in those fishy mining company activities and therefor the cartoon is not exactly inaccurate, but the legal reasoning behind it is sound and I'm willing to bet a similar reasoning (slandering private persons is not allowed) could be upheld in US courts if the facts actually meritted it.


edit: esa ironically that is exactly how the article is interpreted, the article in question doesn't apply to eg radio or television, but this is a constitutional protection that has always been drafted for printed material, there are other protections so this does not exactly put everyone else in a legal void when it comes to expressing opinions

1,252

(52 replies, posted in General)

any scantily cladded slut prancing around? links would be appreciated

as for belgium sending bad songs... that's the mentality of the beast... for decades we said "umm yeah this is a typical song festival song, let's send this one", I remember that justification coming back again; naturally most of these songs sucked fat ass and were totally bland compared to say the songs ireland or some scandinavian countries sent over; nowadays things are more commercial and there are preselection rounds for the selection to go to the eurovision song festival and the jurors go on TV and say things like "umm this is nice but it's a typical song festival song so we're not going to send this or we'll do bad" even if the song isn't half bad and has scantily cladded sluts prancing around (to be fair there are also bad entries with scantily cladded sluts prancing around though)

you see the problem?

1,253

(7 replies, posted in General)

not all parts of the hand catch it

I won against beckham and that left dude with the aluminum outfit

1,254

(69 replies, posted in General)

memorial day I suppose, they postponed the ep for battlestar galactica for this reason

1,255

(61 replies, posted in Politics)

"coal is still cheaper han tongue even if you make it from wood. (how do you say coal from wood in english btw?) But without the humour I see your point"

charcoal tongue

Barak Obama will lead the human race to its end. He is the herald of the apocalypse, the harbinger of death. They must not follow him.

1,257

(69 replies, posted in General)

as I recall it had already been explained in detail why jack's father came to australia, he even met "jack's sister"... I'd say the real surprise is why is "jack's sisters"mother walking out and about...

1,258

(3 replies, posted in Politics)

Yes. The splitting of political and economic freedoms is not something exclusive for autocratic regimes mind you. You see this in our democracies as well. A staggering number of people, especially young people, have no appreciation whatsoever for their political freedom. All most people want is to be left alone and prosper economically. This is why I feel the novel Brave new world has a much more realistic totalitarian government than the government in 1984.

It's not all doom and gloom for political freedoms in the autocratic economies though. The reason why they are able to achieve rapid growth is that there are now many poor labourers in those nations working for a pittance in very unsanitary working conditions. These people will demand further increases in their economic conditions as they see the ruling political and economic elite steadily increasing their wealth. If major steps are not taken to distribute more wealth then sooner or later the basic factory and agricultural grunts will start demanding the political freedoms necessary to achieve this themselves. Such steps are hard to achieve without political influence of the poor, because the wealthy and the ruling elite tends to be  opposed to any meaningful wealth distribution and so ultimately tend to get it more or less forced upon them.

As for autocracies banding together. I don't think there is a strong alliance in the making between these nations, but they will support eachother as a counterweight to US and EU political influence.

What is in the making is a downward spiral of morality in international relations. For example if it weren't for China there would probably have already been a fairly strong military intervention in darfur. The Congo now also feels less inclined to foster healthy democratic institutions that would please the west because it is pretty deeply in China's pockets right now. There are many smaller examples where China's willingness to procure economic benefits for itself regardless of the trading partner is hurting the enlightenment of the human race or however you'd want to call it. It's true that western nations haven't been too picky about their partners as well when their own interests were involved, but up until now there have always been some minute standards (like you can be an ass, but we're not going to work with you if you are total slime) that are being eroded.

1,259

(34 replies, posted in Politics)

of course, the man is an animal

1,260

(46 replies, posted in General)

I did like the feist series very much indeed

1,261

(24 replies, posted in Politics)

it's just obama and his supporters trying to be victimised for their own cynical political gain tongue

1,262

(34 replies, posted in Politics)

great news (that wikipedia is unblocked, lol)

1,263

(24 replies, posted in General)

clown fishes are neat

1,264

(23 replies, posted in Politics)

it's gone
you are a wreck
tears on your pillow
won't bring it back

1,265

(61 replies, posted in Politics)

gladiator

"if they're not doing it, they better cuz that'll get them more profits
and
i think they are doing it now anyways, all oil companies have resevoirs, they can't admit to using them more... but they are..that's business, and as a future business student i applaud them  cuz that'll mean more money for me as i have now invested in an energy mutual fund

made up of some of the biggest oil diggers, and sellers"

and you're a barack obama supporter?... lol...

1,266

(61 replies, posted in Politics)

"Major stock indexes pushed to session lows after Iranian news services reported that Iran is considering a cut to output."

oh noes, oil as a political tool yikes

nobody cares about the cyclone in myanmar, also it's a rip off from the tsunami most people will agree the average myanmari is screwed by his government; lebanon is complicated and it's been discussed since the 80's and most people will agree hezbollah is going overboard;

but the US presidential elections now that's something new

1,268

(16 replies, posted in Politics)

aha so what these people need is a nanny government

1,269

(12 replies, posted in General)

is it any hot stuff or just videos?

1,270

(69 replies, posted in General)

you don't have to pay but you can only view them if you're in north america, or go through a bit of trouble tricking the site you are visiting it from that location

1,271

(105 replies, posted in Politics)

I hate to kick a dead horse but BW and the yell's statement that "We get OUR oil from North America.  But the world market relies on the Middle East adn Africa" and "America gets its oil from Mexico and Canada" are false

don't you people check facts? the US imports oil from many places outside of north america

1,272

(3 replies, posted in Politics)

"europeans drink to have sex" or something is the biggest story

wtf young'uns taking cocaine to prolong their sex??? don't these brats know cocaine gives you limp dick

1,273

(105 replies, posted in Politics)

einstein sold out to the man

1,274

(105 replies, posted in Politics)

and even if america imported not a single drop of middle eastern oil, it still would matter in the US what happens in that region; supply trouble in the middle east would mean nations importing from there would seek alternative supplies and would hence also drive up the price for oil from other regions; the only thing you could say is that the US could more easily force strategic oil deliveries in times of oil emergency rather than having to buy it in the marketplace

1,275

(28 replies, posted in Politics)

it's silly to take vague descriptions like "rape" and "muurduurrrrr" and say zomg no leniency

the beauty of criminal law is that a judge can apply both extenuating and aggravating circumstances depending on the facts of the case; it is an option in certain legal systems to deliver a sentence which is without possibility of probation and such.