1 Topic by Gladiator (edited by Gladiator 16-May-2008 02:55:14)

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Topic: Bush compares nazis with democrats

ok, understood that it's politics, i understand bush is an ass, i understand he's tryina bring down the democrats, i can understand all that

but where does it all just get too much??

i think that line was crossed by bush today


he was at Jerusalem, for the 60th anniversary of Israel, and there in his speech he compared nazis with the democrats


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"Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along.We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

I think that you Democrats are delusional.  He was not taking aim at democrats at all and nowhere does he mention Obama and his campaign.  If anything, Bush was taking an aim at Carter for meeting with Hamas.  He was not taking aim at anyone specifically.  Doing so, especially by the Obama campaign, is just trying to play the "victim" for their own political purposes.

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

That's not comparing Dems to Nazis.  That's comparing Dems to the pacifists in World War 2.  The Nazis would be Al Qaeda.

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

yeh zarf's right...

gladiator you need to read your quotes better before you interpret them

"Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along.We have heard this foolish delusion before"

hes saying someone back home believes that negotiations with the terrorists will solve all the problems, just like someone said before.

"As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

I agree with Zarf.  Bush isn't trying to discredit the Democrats he's trying to justify the War on Terror by illustrating that sometimes you can't reason with people.  This is a purely self-centered move on Bush's part, obviously he wants history to say he had no other option than to start 2 wars neither of which has been the most successful.  Basically it's Bush trying to preserve his image and nothing more, and I don't think anyone can blame him for that.

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it's just obama and his supporters trying to be victimised for their own cynical political gain tongue

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7 Reply by The Great Eye (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 16-May-2008 20:31:27)

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

You guys wouldn't believe how many times I decided to go back to this thread and read it just so I could read "Zarf is right."  tongue

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lol big_smile peace talks do work when done properly... look at the IRA (who seemed to receive a lot of money from the USA funnily enough...)
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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

How dare he insult the nazis

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10 Reply by BiefstukFriet (edited by BiefstukFriet 16-May-2008 20:56:33)

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

Bush did not compare the Democrats to the Nazis. He compared an old senator to modern day naive idiots.

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

Zarf beat me to it. sad

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

well i think it's a shot at obama, and so do other people, even clinton supporters...even clinton herself...even nancy peloci, 100os of other people

ovbiously repubs don't but, obama's been the only person in recent months to say that he will talk to resolve, and he's emphasized it, and no other person really has done that, so it is a shot at him and dems

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

Fine, it's a shot at the Democrats.  I ain't saying it isn't.

Show us how this is a comparison between Democrats and the Nazis, as your original post said, or clarify that you misspoke, so we can move on.

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

It's political babble. Does it really matter what he's saying?

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"well i think it's a shot at obama, and so do other people, even clinton supporters...even clinton herself...even nancy peloci, 100os of other people

ovbiously repubs don't but, obama's been the only person in recent months to say that he will talk to resolve, and he's emphasized it, and no other person really has done that, so it is a shot at him and dems"

Uh...you do realize that even Joe Lieberman sided with Bush on this one?  It's ONLY Obama supporters trying to play victim.  What Bush said was NOTHING new.  He's said those words before, and he's saying it again.  Bush did what he always did.  Obama is just like all those other politicians, trying to take advantage.  He's running a different race?  He's trying to change Washington? Well, guess what?  It looks like Obama (and his supporters) have become one of Washington instead.  He's like all the others.

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When ever did Lieberman not side with bush?

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17 Reply by Gladiator (edited by Gwynedd 19-Jun-2008 01:55:41)

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

thanks for that esa


and as far as the campaigns go, i found another one tongue, any of you guys hear what huckabee said when there was some sort of noise on the stage while he was talking??

it was the funiest shit watching him, say to himself "wow i really [pedometer] up on that" after he had made his little "blunder"

point is, repubs are still guna use dirty tricks to bring down dems, and i for one don't think obama will, if he does, i'll hold my nose and vote for nader

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18 Reply by The Great Eye (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 17-May-2008 02:40:59)

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

Gladiator, you mean if I show you one dirty tactic by Obama, you're done with him?  Give me a moment (got some other stuff to do, but there's definitely a cheap shot by Obama on the field...).

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

You might as well just use this last episode where he's apparently playing victim.  tongue

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20 Reply by The Great Eye (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 17-May-2008 02:46:17)

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

Honestly, I have been too busy these past couple weeks to keep up with the news, so I don't know those particular scenarios... I'm going through an older one...

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"point is, repubs are still guna use dirty tricks to bring down dems"

I'd be rather disappointed if they didn't and vice versa.  Dirty tactics are the only thing that make campaigns worth keeping track of.  Now maybe it's different here but when there's an election I can go on to a party's website and they will have an easily found section essentially saying "We plan to do this."  Once I know that there is little to no reason to actually watch these people as the candidate is merely the figure head for the party as a whole.  So basically 6 months before elections I will have figured out which party will recieve my vote and I don't even have to know who's running.  Dirty tactics however make the campaign trail entertaining so I'm all for it.

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23 Reply by The Great Eye (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 17-May-2008 05:23:50)

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Gladiator, you still haven't said how the above was considered a dirty tactic in the first place.  Either you're randomly using a baseless argument as a springboard for an attack on Republicans, or you think I'm wrong in my prior statements.  Care to clarify which of these is right?

(Oh, and the Nazi thing is still in question...)

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Re: Bush compares nazis with democrats

> Gladiator wrote:

> well i think it's a shot at obama, and so do other people, even clinton supporters...even clinton herself...even nancy peloci, 100os of other people

ovbiously repubs don't but, obama's been the only person in recent months to say that he will talk to resolve, and he's emphasized it, and no other person really has done that, so it is a shot at him and dems


oh, so because some people interpret Bush's remarks as shots against members of the rival party, it justifies you spreading lies about his remarks? he is a politician, he has all the place in the world to take shots at members of the rival party and he did not compare anyone to nazi's like you claimed.

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25 Reply by BiefstukFriet (edited by BiefstukFriet 17-May-2008 07:26:04)

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> Gladiator wrote:

> well i think it's a shot at obama, and so do other people, even clinton supporters...even clinton herself...even nancy peloci, 100os of other people

ovbiously repubs don't but, obama's been the only person in recent months to say that he will talk to resolve, and he's emphasized it, and no other person really has done that, so it is a shot at him and dems


Read the article again, slowly, word for word. Bush his quote  could be directed at Obama or the democrates, that's not the point. The point is that the comparison that was made by Bush is about an American Senator and his stance on the Nazis, not the Nazis themselves.

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