WILL NEVER FIND ME AMONG THE STACKS!!!

awwww "cooperation"

Bush got lied to too   and hosed by Russians

think the One can get missles out of Kaliningrad?

....I never ever supported McCain, he opposed the Bill fo Rights.  I cheered Palin a bit.  I quit the GOP when I got chewed out for being too worried about right adn wrong instead of winning a permanent majority...I couldn't vote in the GOP primary in my state.  Tuesday I voted for Alan Keyes, who KEPT IT REAL!!!!!

I dunno BW, the Keynesians are hell bent that a mere RECESSION disproved all capitalism and now is the time to begin printing money to "invest", they just don't get it.

here in CA revenue is off by $12 billion in two months because we pass bonds by ballot initiative (uncontrolled unplanned borrowing) and we have a recession, they turn around and say we must hike sales taxes "it's a revenue problem, spending hasn't changed for years" lied Ahnuld (it went up 40% over 10 years, population only went up 18%) they think they can legislate REVENUE by legislating RATES, they don't get it

they will go right over the cliff splurging and raping and looting, i was half-joking when i said they should start taking in eminent domain and paying with California state bonds instead of cash.  I wouldn't put it past them.

And that's the same path they're taking the federal government, Bush STARTED IT, Paulson's first and only reaction was "OMG throw federal $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to billionaires! can't lose the top 100! we CAN'T!" we could and should before they drag down the govt too.

People whined AIG was hosting spa retreats and Vegas conventions after taking $105 billion in federal bailout money, and I tell them "So what? Being too big to fail means a blank check for whatever.   AIG could start buying black slaves in Sudan, we'd still throw tax money at them if we are afraid to lose them"

I was not aware our country could be panicked so easily.  we got rolled.

Primo what IS in our constitution is a strict guarantee that the US government shall never, ever, ever, default on a US government debt.   The current constitution drafted in 1797 was a fluke; the convention was called to reform a government that couldn't float a stable dollar.  Their reaction was to scrap the government and start over.  For 225 years we have kept the faith.  It's kept us afloat since 1973, rolling over and exporting our debt with short-term Treasury bonds.  they're guaranteed.  we have to borrow to pay off the old notes, but they're paid in full and on time.  It's in our constitution.

in 25 years about 1/3 of the US population will be above the current retirement age, the age where the government starts paying out that 7.5% Social Security tax withheld from every paycheck, which we expect and require! will support the house and the two cars and cable and internet and probably holosex by then, season tickets and a couple of thousand mile road trips a year in a camper... the $$ will not be there, everybody knows it, and what nobody talks about is the $1 trillion a year in interest on those foriegn-owned Treasury bills we'll be paying out...

Guess how we'll save a trillion?

Then who's gonna line up to bail us out?

yes, I think a MAJORITY of the USA is that stupid.

and BW i agree about the GOP for not standign against that, or really anything else....

"but all i know is, civilians with no affiliations to "terrorrists" are dying every day... schools, villages, small towns
and the fact that, these doings are reported no-where, and if reported, if they're lucky they'll catch the last page in world news is really worrying, and sad..'

i think the reverse has been true, that legit strikes have been rigged as atrocities

"by that theory, you might as well kill the whole world, and let God sort them out

SICKENING!!!!"

BW was a trained killer stationed on NATO soil to sacrifice himself and the Germans around him to slow down the Commies long enough for France to be reinforced

at the request of the Germans and french who figured American invasion and fighting liberation would AGAIN be their best hope for the future as opposed to having the lives of 800 million europeans from Gibraltar to Norway dictated by Moscow

BW was a volunteer for that mission

a lil historical context

and he had it baby soft compared to my granddad, who ran into ashooting war and flew 50 missions over that countryside in an outfit where 1 in 3 were casualties.

feel happy you escape such harsh circumstances, apparently...all we got to worry about is another stupid recession

imagine Bastogne today BW

CNN constant news flashes..."CRISIS AT THE CROSSROADS: US Army Ambushed"

"CRISIS AT THE CROSSROADS: How We Failed"

"CRISIS AT THE CROSSROADS: US Casualties Believed Heavy"

"CRISIS AT THE CROSSROADS: Trapped US General Incoherent, Asks for Snacks"

"CRISIS AT THE CROSSROADS: Geneva Conventions Dictate Surrender Against Hopeless Odds"

Word of caution on that...a lot of guys in the McCain camp are scumbags, apparently a few were Romney people who feel THEY are running the party now that McCain lost, thank you very much, odd how he lost with the E-lights helping him...

so it's all McCain's fault

and Palin is an idiot, pay no attention to her, it's MITT...aaaaaaahhhhh....

one thing we should all agree on, a Republican who leaks to the NYT is seriously deviant and needs put down

it does not speak highly of McCain's hypothetical Admin that he trusted such losers...imagine what they'd have done if he'd won...actually look at Bush's Admin, no imagination needed.

(I never voted for McCain, i cheered for PALIN, because she agreed with me... only Republicans get to vote in teh California Republican primary and I care about being right more than just winning votes so I am not republican anymore, and on Tues I voted for Alan Keyes)

I don't need to I'll be screwed by Congress!

Yeah maintain some level of I don't know what, doggie self respect or something

OK : I don't do that. Here's how I act

Flaming:  YOU SLEPT WITH WHAT? U ASS

Although I think this thread is a lost cause

Your why KT prefers cats

/me waits for NY thugz to grab they nines and pickup trukz and bust some hippie tie-dye Clam Chowdah gardenerz for they groceries

I just realized yesterday none of you has ever known BW or me or Acolyte as anything but the voice of Government, this game started in 2001 didn't it?

You never knew the American right-wing as the voice of Resistance and opposition... We tend to get a little hardheaded and resistant.  A wee bit intractable. Not at all our normal, expansive selves

"Football game, name calling"
No, in many ways 2004 was the high-water mark of the GOP. It ran with Congress and the President as a unit working for an agenda. They promised a slate of policies to fix social security win in Iraq and reform judicial appointments. Once they won, defections by guys like McCain went unpunished, they felt free to repudiate every pledge, and came up with insane ideas like amnesty eith back pension for illegal aliens.

"Giving money off street corners"
That's what Bush and this Congress has been doing since summer, its what Congressional Democrats want to do before the election, and Obama is gonna expand the idea. With tax credits!

Taxpayer: I earned $25000 last year.
Govt:  Then you owe $863 in taxes. But we took some out of everypaycheck so we owe you $153.
Taxpayer: woot!
Govt: But you also get a $3500 tax credit! So you get $3653.00 as a "refund".
Taxpayer: WOOT

"Minority revolution"
I don't care about color. If you mean the lower middle demanding federal guarantees of their lifestyle, here it is now, and see how that flops

Some belgians were giddy the govt was gonna give them money to buy a BICYCLE.  Democrats are talking about helping every American buy a CAR- a green car--and giving Detroit a few hundred billion to make them faster. And the Plan is, foriegners will loan us the money to do that, with bond purchases, in whatever amount, forever.

"Obstruct and block everything and watch your country sink further"
We don't sit quietly and let govt do our thinking for us. The last time we had anything close to unity was WW2 because the Axis hit us first and were such jerks. And even then there were rumbles at how FDR was running it.

A lot of these ideas haven't been tried since the 1970s because they're such flops.   They don't deserve a "trial period" to see how they work.

We might not stop any of it, especially if the Democrats restore the Fairness Doctrine and render radio free of politica content again. But part of changing it is opposing it, and that each of can do alone.

Bush won big too, I didn't expect the left to lie down or accept anything, I expected we'd dynamite them out of the road for four years. It was a campaign promise the republicans made in 2004 and they lost in 2006 and 2008 in large part for refusing to keep it.  It was one reason I stopped being republican years ago

Where did Obamaniacs get the idea elections decide opinions? Govt can't tell me what to think, heard that one?  I'll boo a socialist if I feel like it. Boooo!

Taking money because you can is stealing and taking money you don't earn is corrupt.  Ending a war without winning is losing and choosing to lose is disloyal. Those are true no matter how many millions shrug at them and no matter if an old man in arizona shrugs and says "I had a blast, let's forget what's right and climb on the bandwagon"

Btw you can't be a protector of the poor and promote inflation...1/3 of the US has no living memory of the 1970s which explains a lot -- not that Obama's plan is aimed at the poor, its not about feeding the starving its about helping Joe Sixpack keep cable with a "tax credit"--if his new union dues let him...