<<Such blatant lies!  Only two weeks ago you were touting their historic INDEPENDENCE. This was your story as of 8/23, pg 2 of this thread:>>

Page two, twenty third of august, my post:

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> TheYell wrote:
> Because nobody but a military would go into Georgia.
Mailer, if the sovereign govt of the USA wished to send arms to the soveriegn govt of Georgia--we don't , sadly, but we should-- Russia has no veto short of an act of war against the USA.  None of their business.<

I'm curious, did you actually do something during the Cold War, something more worthwhile than sitting at Reception looking hard? The reason I ask is that it seems that you are absolutely desperate to go back to those days no matter what the cost, as your wish to fight a war-by-proxy seems to indicate.
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Perhaps the USA is intentionally trying to provoke another Cold War in the hope that another Cold War will be as good for their economy as the last one? Hmm...
... But that could only work if half the world was at war, with America selling everyone the guns, just like last time.

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>Ask me again when they're in Tblisi after further "provocation".<

Why, how much "aid" does Georgia think it needs?

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Sorry, don't see it in that post, nor do I see it in the other posts you quoted. Perhaps you would like to use your modly powers to embolden the parts of my posts that tout their historic independence? Perhaps even explain how my posts are somehow touting this historic independance? Perhaps you could quote me even more exactly?
Can't can you?
By the way, are you happy that is this what you've reduced yourself to; jumping up and down shouting "But it doesn't count, they're not a real country!", hmm?

>3. We recognize the independence of Georgia and its freedom to tell Moscow "No"
as does YOUR govt Brit<

And what of the independence of Ossetia? What of their freedom to say no? What of their right to live free of Georgian aggression? Why do they not deserve freedom, Yell?

>Georgia can no more invade Ossetia than the United kingdom can invade Wales.<

And yet it happened.
As for your idiotic parallel:
Wales has not had the benefit of defacto independence for the last 18 years, England has not ignored Wales only to suddenly bomb the region into dust because it doesn't like who it wants to be friends with, because it suddenly realised it's going to lose it's precious pipeline that it should have had the foresight to not build there in the first places

>Russia has send troops into a foriegn nation--that is invasion.<

Like when you sent troops into Kuwait to stop Iraq from bombing them into dust?

>Russia has taken territory by war--that is conquest.<

Russia has not taken territory, Russia is in those places for the same reason Americans are still in Afghanistan and Iraq and Japan and Korea and Germany and....

>Neither.  I have a spine and<

And yet you cannot admit, even for a second, that Georgia was the aggressor, that Georgia was the first to aim a bullet, the first to drop a Bomb, the first to fire a mortar, and for no good reason.

I used to respect you, if not like you. Now I just think you're pathetic.

> Einstein wrote:
> Simulate includes the math portions. A step by step break down. Go away fool, your just making noise.<

  A simulation is not proof of concept.
  Mathematical theory is not proof of concept.
  No proof of concept = no backing.

  Learn to program, create your program, and when you have proof that your concept works you will have more backing than you will ever need. Until you do this no one will ever take you, or your theory, seriously.

> Fudged wrote:
> the guy from full house...<

Full House?

Bob Who?

@Michael:
You need proof of concept. If you cannot find a programmer willing to do it for you then learn to program yourself, after all, what is a few extra months?

Quality has everything to do with it. Low quality prats go to Holland specifically to get absolutely shit faced because apparently that's all there is to do there.

High quality prats (me) got to Holland for the same reason, but are aware that there is a conservative country attached to the red-light district and so try not to make total prats of ourselves in public, but in our hotel rooms.
That's also why we go to Rotterdam, less vomit.

> [RPA] Lloyd List wrote:

>...But I still wish it gave us a choice!...<

+1

Ok, so 'tis pirate day an' th' scallywags who like pirates want t' talk like pirates.  Under ordinary circumstances I could live with that, but not under these circumstances:

What if I dern't want t' talk like a pirate?  Shiver me timbers! What if I want me posts t' be legible?  Who thought it were bein' a good notion t' force us all t' have posts like this, avast?  X(

> vissertje wrote:

> oh and ffs dont go drink lotsa booze then stuff ur face with mushrooms in a crowded street cause the lame reckless tourists are what's causing mushrooms to be made illegal <

That's why I prefer Rotterdam, better quality of prat.

> Little Paul wrote:

> it goes for fat but not for cigs or alchohol. They cost MORE before they die.<

So far I have given the government, over a period of ten years, *

Yeah, the Duma always was overly dramatic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmneBvV8cLs&feature=related

There is a better one that I cannot find (obviously) in which almost the entire Duma is fighting.

<Even the ones without warheads, which would have been safer as a rain of parts.>

I imagine it is easier to make such a tactically stupid decision when the missiles are over your own land.

<b4 my time, but in the 1960s Howard Hughes built something like a moving oil derrick called the Glomar Explorer that got a Ruski sub off the seafloor around Hawaii.>

I read about that, that was almost as embarrassing for them as the spy-plane incident was for you.

<Actually that's when we planned to launch everything we got.>

You seem to have misunderstood my post: For that scenario to exist your missiles would already have to be in the air.

<It's a confirmed launch that causes the real trouble.  Plus every ounce of extra gear detracts from something else. Better to have 5 dumb warheads than 3 fancy ones, because the first strike may be all you get.>

That argument would have held some weight (not intended) some years ago, before your government decided all of their warheads were too big and downgraded them all.
But anyway: You should not be so prejudiced against Non-American sources, then you would know that your missiles do indeed have destruct buttons, and (according to rumour only, I admit) the Russians do not, or at least did not for some time.

<You know crazy pro-American sources like the BBC witnessed Russian bombs taking out apt buildings?>

That's what happens when you decide to over-compensate and use cluster bombs to kill a sniper, as your boys discovered in Iraq and Afghanistan, as the Isrealis discovered when they bombed... Who did they say was the source of all evil last year?
Luckily for you I share the American point of view on matters like these: Serves these civilians right for shooting at Ossetians.

<Naw.>