1,026

(23 replies, posted in Politics)

Russia is still there, its only smaller as the USSR and changed that name. The only difference is that they use the word mob now instead of party member. Current leadership should be removed before they grow to strong with all their energy resources. They are equally dangerous as the Chinese gov.

Only difference, it seems like the Chinese are slowly heading towards a revolution. At least I hope they do.

1,027

(38 replies, posted in Politics)

@zarf:
couldn't wait now could you? tongue

@key:
And I'm an atheist but that's not the point.

1,028

(24 replies, posted in Politics)

With current activeness, it needed 2 more years to be on the second page, so don't complain zarf tongue

1,029

(38 replies, posted in Politics)

@noir,
Key said:
"Well go ahead and tell me by what laws of the United States of America are God Given Rights."
so at least the thread started about US

"Consider this a Devil's Advocate game."
thats how we know you zarf tongue

1,031

(38 replies, posted in Politics)

@key
What if you're an atheist? Do you still have to reply to the initial post? In any case any generalization towards reps or dems is flawed.

As you pointed out, both democratic and republican members have said these things in the past. If you generalize that to the entire political parties and all off its members, nearly every American (including many hard-core atheists) would have voted in favor of what you call "God given rights". While in reality, even the majority of religious people in general prolly don't.

"Both at one time or another both the Democrats and Republicans have stated that Americans have God Given Rights, especially the republicans."
There is a large fraction of republicans that is atheist. It even splits the party up sometimes. It shows the flaws in your reasoning.

"You do remember my arguements since you've been here from the start right?"
I know your stances on gun laws. But who ever said "god given right" without being sarcastic or just using the expression but not meaning it literally?

"Yes Little Paul, I'm prejudice against those who do drugs and also those who believe that the right to bear arms is a god given right."
ok. But I accused you of being prejudiced about the "you people" you addressed obviously referring to people on this forum.

Of all religious people defending gun laws I know here,  I cannot remember one telling us God had given him to right to bare arms. Of course its impossible I've read everything back then when the forum was still active, but can you give us one name then?

"Why is it, the republicans state what rights GOD gave us? Seriously, as I remember it, Church and State are seperate.  When republicans tell us what are God Given Rights are, that to me means trouble."
Why is it everybody generalizes republicans to one big group of religious zealots? There are a lot of Christians but extreme christian fundamentalists are still a minority and are also part of the democratic party.

"What we have here is a mans right to shoot somebody else because they don't agree with someone elses politics."
Which is wrong, but nobody here contests that. We disagree with the fact that the shooting is a direct result of anti gov sentiment.

"God given right to bear arms of course."
I never heard that argument EVER before on this forum. And I've been here from the start.

"Now do you people understand why I say, you people are a little bit to greedy with your rights as you believe them to be?"
What do you mean with "you people"? It all smells like prejudice to me.

1,034

(29 replies, posted in Politics)

"I think conscription teaches teenagers respect and well needed discipline."
what else could we expect from you? ->LP points @ at your pic. tongue

"So, you don't agree with laws, just shoot people."
if that is a reply to me, read the last sentence. If it is a reply to yell, note he was being sarcastic.

1,036

(6 replies, posted in Politics)

Its impossible to predict really, but I hope majority changes. That's enough for me. It will prevent Obama from being as destructive as he was in the past, even if he gets reelected.

1,037

(4 replies, posted in Politics)

to debate the entire Austrian perspective, interesting as it the subject might be, is a lot off stuff for one thread. I have a lot to say about it, and I'm surely willing to debate, but If you add a debate about (your form) of autarchy ass well, I would really advice you to make different threads about parts of those topics.

1,038

(29 replies, posted in Politics)

"Or if your ancestor was half Belgian and half German, but lived in and departed from Germany, then you are not Belgian"
typically Belgian, avoiding taxes. tongue

Although I think the shooting was a very bad thing and the shooter should be trialed for murder, I do have some remarks in the strange response upon this tragic event.

A lot of people abuse this murder to stigmatize certain political groups. They claim the anti-gov sentiment of eg the tea party movement is responsible for blind hatred, therefore resulting in these kind of accidents.

I consider this jump to conclusion completely ridiculous for numerous reasons.
1.) The shooter was probably mental. Without this illness he wouldn't have shot.
2.) Only one incident happened so far. You can hardly call that representative.
3.) Anti-gov sentiments to the point of revolution also happened during the bush administration and did not lead to this kind of actions.

Most of the times these mentally ill persons search for a idea they can abuse instead of the other way around. Even if the hatred thing where true, and despite me being the biggest defender of democracy on this forum - or what's left of it-, one casualty should not exclude a whole political group this widespread and important, whether you're love or hate them.

Lets not be mistaken in my intentions however, these kind of incidents should be prevented if possible. By heavy punishment if necessary.

1,040

(29 replies, posted in Politics)

aren't you?

1,041

(29 replies, posted in Politics)

idd

1,042

(68 replies, posted in Politics)

lol

1,043

(3 replies, posted in Politics)

I had to lol after reading and ROFL after acolytes response.  Sorry IA. tongue

Start a website where people can place bets?

1,044

(68 replies, posted in Politics)

"This was during my teens, at this time I was an army boot wearing semi-communist."
yikes

1,045

(68 replies, posted in Politics)

What happened to this once active forum?

1,046

(5 replies, posted in Politics)

lol

1,047

(5 replies, posted in Politics)

With the new law, journalists may suffer an excessive fine when a certain institution decides they are not objective. The parliament chooses the members of this institution. The parliament means one party.

guess they forgot about their condition in the USSR.

1,048

(40 replies, posted in Politics)

It has been so long, he's almost transferred into oil.

1,049

(8 replies, posted in Politics)

Unfortunately I think you're right.

1,050

(10 replies, posted in Politics)

edit after reading GL posts:
It is however new idd how it is shown to the public.

But maybe -and this is only a theory - its a way Iran can back-out of the nuclear program without loosing face?