before u have a stroke PP, that was a joke

*puts on a hazmat suit*

*hugs SJ*

i have to say PP i am getting a little sick of you still telling ppl how sh*t they are. not sure if it was this thread or another that i last saw u do it in but ur more likely so see it if i post here.

you dont play anymore. therefore you havnt seen how everyone else plays in quite a while, ie: at least a year. stop telling us we all suck when really you have no idea how good or bad we are.

w000 the first hive

the thing that killed the game is the 'fam bank' strategy.

the core idea of it is being as efficient as possible to get the best infra possible in order to win. it forces one or two players, normally just the leader, to be super active to make it work well, and makes them do all the planning. almost all the other members of the fam bank have very little idea of what is happening throughout the fam, and they certainly dont know why each thing is being done. so they all learn nothing. they all become automatons. this means no one new learns much. the direct result of this is that there are only a limited number of people who can run a fam bank effectively left in the game, leading to the massive lack of competition present in mw and andro. Most of these fam bank leaders are vets of people who have been lucky enough to learn alot from one or two vets. these people are slowly disappearing as more and more of them retire, further increasing the massive lack of competition.

pairs were so much funner than the fam bank. as well as having competition between the families to see which had the best set of players, you had competition inside the fam for the team that pulled off the best start, the team that had the best iron, endo, food, octo and cahs incomes, and comeptition for number of attack done and planets gained by each time. with the fam bank you only have 2 or 3 real attackers and the rest of the fam are made bankers or resourcers. each banker or resourcer is told what to build and the leader always makes sure the attackers are different sizes and have differet sized fleets, which means they cant have fair competition between themselves.

so the fam bank is killing the game becos its boring as hell and becos it teaches new players almost nothing. the only effective way to learn is to have to work thins out yourself, the only effective way to understand what works best is to have tested and experienced various ideas yourself.

fam bank is however the most efficient strat with the current gameplay. IC is like a game you've had for a few years for you xbox/playstation/wii/wotever, a game that you've totally cracked, a game on which u can beat the top level CPUs with your eyes closed, a game on which u have 99-100% completion. you know it inside out and so its just not fun to keep playing it anymore, there's no challenge or excitement of discovery. so if we go back to ic, the problem is that we know the am inside out. the best strategy has been found and thats it, either you do it or you dont win. so in order to live ic needs sum radical changes to the gameplay, some new features that will force us all to take a good look at the game and say to ourselves "how can i use this to do better than everyone else? what possible tactics could i use these things for?".

until that happens i am begging you all to go back to pairs or small teams. its not all that much less efficient but its 10 times more fun. i tried it this round but i seemed to be the only one doing it, and i had a fam that was very much hoping to win, so we ended up switching to fam bank about 5 days in becos we just couldnt keep up. thats why more fams need to go back to pairs, and to go back to the fun.

im gna vote for TDC becos having been allied to them i was impressed by the way the two fams worked as 1 while still having alot of fun. was very inspiring

i have to say, having 2 pop bankers cant be done succesfully with even 8 weeks and 15 man fams, let alone 4 weeks and 12 man fams

w00 no chance of bumping into you on campus next year then

j/k

notice boys and girls how unspecific nolio is being.

man up nolio and admit you deleted. wotever situation u needed for the test you mods could easily have recreated in rodent's

"Not to be uncharacteristically mean"

that made me laugh

*dances*