... WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?!?!?!?
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... WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?!?!?!?
*smashes the tumbleweed*
Besides... remember, it's North Korea. The only way someone would "lose" a stealth bomber in that operation would be if they forgot where they parked it.
Back on topic, everyone! X(
But if I click on the planet...
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Does anyone else have problems here?
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I see your mispronunciations and art obsessions, and raise you a "the dog ate my security codes for the US nuclear deterrent."
Okay, now I'm 100% convinced it's "xeno trying to get Flint to not post here." ![]()
Perhaps xeno isn't trying to get him to post it there... but instead is trying to get Flint to not post it here. ![]()
"Forgot" implies that it escaped his memory. ![]()
Just because it is an acceptable emotional response in a general social context, it doesn't mean it is accepted within the rules in this forum. Additionally, I'm sure as hell not going to get in the habit of allowing people to swear just because someone said something rash enough to justify getting sworn at because it's a fairly subjective standard.
So no. Now... carry on arguing politics! ![]()
Warned, Justinian.
Charter schools. Bam. Solves both your problems.
That would be the best mafia ever! Day 1: Collective town suicide. ![]()
This isn't exactly a debate in which I'm aiming to get Kemp to tear down his whole philosophy. Hell, my argument is entirely that, even if we spot Kemp 100% that the Obama Administration is arming for a war against the domestic population (i.e., even if I give the general philosophical narrative full truth value), it doesn't mean this drone issue was within that, given the specific facts at hand in the drone debate (i.e., given the facts at hand, it's very possible Obama was preparing every other form of warfare against the American population, but not drones). So yeah, he can keep his philosophy for all I care right now. ![]()
Considering he already admitted that his evidence wasn't up to date in regards to either the filibuster itself or the Holder congressional testimony, that characterization of Kemp is definitely worth challenging, at least right now.
One problem, though: There is absolutely no contradiction between your link and my link. There was no "change" in policy. It's just a clarification.
These are from your link.
WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration believes it could technically use military force to kill an American on U.S. soil in an "extraordinary circumstance" but has "no intention of doing so," U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said in a letter disclosed Tuesday.
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The Obama administration, Holder said, rejected the use of military force where "well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat." But in theory, it'd be legal for the president to order such an attack under certain circumstances, Holder said.
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"For example, the president could conceivably have no choice but to authorize the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances like a catastrophic attack like the ones suffered on December 7, 1941, and September 11, 2001," Holder continued, referring to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. Holder said he would "examine the particular facts and circumstances" if such an emergency were to arise.
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Your cite. Gives two scenarios of when drone strikes would be usable in the US. It cites no other scenarios.
Those scenarios are still on the table as scenarios in which drone strikes could occur. As of my Holder quote, those were on the table. The only difference... is that a clarification occurred outside scenarios such as those two. Whereas before, the White House said "we would not do this, it's inappropriate, normal means for dealing with such are sufficient..." the Holder quote I gave simply adjusts that to replace "inappropriate" with "unconstitutional."
Yes... Obama does claim the right that, in an imminent combat situation, drones could be used to bomb threatening Americans. But guess what: the US could do that anyway. If you staged an armed Libertarian uprising against the Obama Administration, Obama would be absolutely in his right to bomb you. Does that mean Obama has the moral high ground? No. It just means the conflict would have crossed the line between political and military.
Where, in either of our links, does Eric Holder outright say that he wants to reserve the right to bomb Americans out of combat? This is what I asked you from the start. I'm looking at your link, and it still indicates only the imminent threat scenario that was reiterated in my quote.
Am I missing something? Please copy/paste for me the part where he literally says he wants to bomb out-of-combat Americans in America, so I know what you're talking about, cause I could be missing it here. Cause remember, you're saying he "literally" said he wanted the right to bomb out-of-combat Americans. If it's literal, as you say, there should be a quote outright saying exactly that. I'm not seeing it.
I hadn't caught up on the news today, The Great Eye. My post was based on dated information before Holder's most recent remarks.
Fair enough.
"But agreeing with Paul doesn't mean you have to assume that the problem was a government trying to get the right to bomb Starbucks..."
It's about preparations to fight Americans who fight back against the globalist authoritarian oppression which is coming.
DHS isn't buying 2 billion rounds of ammunition (most of it hollow-point) for training. It wouldn't use that much for training in a century.
DHS isn't buying thousands of armored military vehicles to drive kids home from soccer games.
Veterans aren't randomly getting letters telling them they're mentally unstable and have no 2nd amendment rights because our government respects individuals.
DHS memos don't cry solely about potential "right-wing" terrorists, even though there are none, without a little foresight into the resistance their future policies will cause.
The US military isn't conducting training exercises in more and more small towns and cities within the United States in preparation to fight in N. Africa or SW. Asia.
SWAT teams aren't being used to harass people for _misdemeanors_ out of respect for common sense and individual rights. They're mentally preparing people to be subjugated. They're making sure the populace is appropriately docile.
They're building a legal basis, and preparing physically with armed forces, to squash citizens within the United States who dare think of resisting the tyrannical, authoritarian, oppressive policies they intend to enact when they collapse our economy and give away vast tracks of Federal land which will be used to pay the China back for its debt holdings (because our dollar with be so inflated the Chinese won't accept it as payment).
Except for one thing: If I'm right... then it's not "about that" because the facts upon which you're basing the argument that this is linked to that... fundamentally aren't there. I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong in the above. However, if the Department of Justice has said, under oath, that they can't constitutionally use drones against civilians except in an imminent threat, preventing 9/11 right before it happens-esque scenario... then the debate that's actually happening on the Senate floor is absolutely not the debate you're talking about, and this is at best an utter distraction from the topic (the drone debate occurring in the Senate).
I preemptively declare that the Politics Forum fail of the week! ![]()
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