"Basically if the law passes, then birth control pills would have to be illegalized.  Since any conception would mean the wholesale ban of spermacides and similiar uses of some contraceptives.  The morning after pill for one thing.  Would mean that the woman murdered a "Conceived child" in utero.  Your not thinking about the full ramifications which would presail under law, the final outcome.

Woman takes the Morning after pill, the day after sex, in which case a child could have been created in inception.  By law, if it passes as a law, a child of inception which is destroyed by any process of child birth technologies would therefor be tantamount to murder at worst, and manslaughter at best."

That's the reality.  The only thing that would be changed by such a law would be recognition of the facts.  Most human cultures have done just fine dealing with it.  Their answer was to curtail fornication.

"That you put that crap directly onto my shoulders, on my position of pre-utero conception means the WORLD TO ME, considering the fact, as I stated above....the POSITION has already been argued in a Superior Court of Law of the land.  And they already RULED on it.  If your to damn lazy to look up the ruling, really it's not my problem."

The Supreme Court ruled that a slave in Georgia was a slave in every state in Dredd Scott v Sandford.
The Supreme Court ruled that racial segregation was legal under the Constitution even with the 14th Amendment,  in Plessy v. Ferguson.
And further, in Korematsu v. United States, the Supreme Court  upheld the detention of Japanese Americans based on ancestry.

So yes, when you stomp your foot and say "STFU the Supreme Court has SETTLED the matter" then you can answer for every damfool decision that tribunal has wrought.

Yes, a pretended confusion that the zygote is nothing different than sperm, which stays sperm until it's consumed.  You clearly know there's a real difference.

If you want to try to argue that your social considerations are more important than any system based on the facts of reproduction, go ahead and ignore science. 

""that farfetched circumstance has happened about 7 billion times over the past 80 years..."
That process is so dependent on communication between cells to allow for a correct development and so easily interuptable that yes, i'd say connecting 2 steps that are so far apart directly to each other is VERY farfetched."

So farfetched as to have occurred at least 7 billion times over the past 80 years.  Guess how I know.  And that's not counting the rest of the animal kingdom which does it the same way.

"The sperm cells are almost as unique as the zygote."

Nope! Their variation is limited by the diploid set of the male.   Futhermore you're dodging the function of the zygote.
As I said, pretended confusion about biology to justify a social conclusion.

>.Then what next?  An egg is human?  A sperm is human?  Illegal masterbation for the destruction of thousands of sperm will land you in prison?  What's that?  One thousand counts of Sperm Destruction?<<

The DNA in your sperm is the same that was present from your conception and is unique to you.  If you spooge into a yoohoo and knock up some girl, your unique DNA will share with her unique DNA to form a unique third DNA combination in a zygote, present from conception."

I thought that was simple enough.

>>Seriously.  This is all about the whole regligious/soul/human rights stuff.  And this question has already been answered by the Supreme Court, and the law courts of over 50 states.<<

So was the status of negroes as chattel property.  And their place standing in the back of the bus.

he wasnt born, he wafted to us from Heaven upon angels' farts, as he is now

""The law of endangered species respects this science"

Yet these same rules do not extend to non-endangered animals (in fact we have a tendency to control numbers, we protect endangered species, whilst culling species that pose a threat, ie. sharks, dingoes, etc). The human race is not endangered..<<

The facts of reproduction don't rest on endangered status.  It is because we choose to actually preserve a species that we respect the facts of biology for that species, while pretending confusion when it comes to our own species.

"That ignores the science of DNA, which notes the basic and unique blueprint of the human being is created at conception and present in every cell at conception. "

>>It is also present in sperm, so my sperm has rights? (well actually I think it does, in regards to donating, theft, etc) but my sperm has rights to self-determination? (next time, will ask my sperm permission before I bust one out)<<

The DNA in your sperm is the same that was present from your conception and is unique to you.  If you spooge into a yoohoo and knock up some girl, your unique DNA will share with her unique DNA to form a unique third DNA combination in a zygote, present from conception.

The next logical step is to take those people whose "quality of life" is so low, they shouldn't breed, and put them in work camps and then cut the food off.  It's only fair, because they consume resources needed by the superior humans to thrive. Superior humans are so outnumbered, you know.  Once you get past the arrogance of awarding all humans an absolute value, and declaring their value is subjective based on the expert judgment of authority as to their usefulness, there's no point with superstitious half-measures based on false sentiment. What makes it so fun, is that awareness and acceptance of these facts is a litmus test for usefulness.  If you protest the camps, you belong in one. 

"Now if we start putting rights on a fetus at conception (which I might add is just a collection of cells without any real consciousness) then the same rights should start to be placed on animals (which the entire argument against equal rights for animals is their lack of consciousness or higher brain function, which a featus until the 24th week lacks both). "

That ignores the science of DNA, which notes the basic and unique blueprint of the human being is created at conception and present in every cell at conception.  The law of endangered species respects this science, which is why bald eagles and dugongs and spotted owls are protected at every stage of development, so they can process through to adulthood.

thanks!

saw an article today that if Scotland goes independent, it will be totally outside the EU and have to ask to be let in.

...maybe England will bail too?

I will give you 10 US cents on the Euro for a limited time.  I can handle up to 1000 euro at a transaction.*
Please email me and we'll arrange for a wire transfer.

*10% transaction fee.

i call for primo to be locked up behind a firewall so only +18 year olds can see him

pie, the guy who comes up with an index rules the world.  Look at linneaus, he's still dominant after 400 years

"Also Flint doesn't understand the idea that everyone is different and not all situations are the same. He sees bullying, he thinks up one way to deal with it that works in his head and decides that is the only way to deal with it, and nothing else will work."

I take it you would then agree with Flint that a law enforcing one solution was a bad idea?