3,401

(31 replies, posted in Politics)

> DPS wrote:

> "good thing the US isnt capitalist."

Well the only economic systems I'm familliar with, though I don't claim to be an expert, are Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism (Yes there is a difference between Socialism and Communism).  Now I know my country is a Socio-Capitalist blend, Capitalistic with a dash of Socialism, and I KNOW the US isn't more Socialist than we are so if the US isn't Capitalist what is it?

Note: Just noticed an error in my previous post it should read "somewhat hypocritical" not "someone hypocritical".


its socialist

captalism = the state controls no means of production
socialism = the state controls some means of production
communism = the state controls all means of production

many european countries have much more controlled by the state then Canada or the US, so they'll call us capitalist, but we're socialist.

3,402

(31 replies, posted in Politics)

> DPS wrote:

> > CanadianTire wrote:

> Tequila drinkers beware! The plant that is used to make this amazing drink is grown mostly in Mexico, and many farmers are destroying their crops, to plant corn, as corn is now more profitable (due to biofuels, etc.). We could see a 25-35% drop in the supply of it!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

More on topic though I've always felt the whole idea of government subsidized industry in a capitalist, free trade environment as someone hypocritical.  I understand governments want to protect their people's interests but it throws the system out of gear.  If you can't compete against Mexican farmers guess what Mexican farmers get more profit, try something else.  If you are going to subsidize and still hope to maintain a true free market you need to regulate it as well, kind of a you can only use x % of land for growing crop y.


good thing the US isnt capitalist.

3,403

(144 replies, posted in General)

after my friend's porn stash, my next most embarressing thing would be a large poster of the U.S.S Enterprise NCC - 1701 - D or the giant hole in the wall that its covering.

3,404

(144 replies, posted in General)

im holding my friend's porn collection while he's going out with someone so she wont accidentally stumble onto it. i looked at it briefly, he has some pretty weird taste in porn.

3,405

(31 replies, posted in Politics)

yeah, im a student and work part-time as a host in a restaurant, and the price of pop or "soft drinks" has doubled for the restaurant because of the high fructose corn syrup used in pop. but when i buy pop at the grocery market it hasnt changed noticeably.

3,406

(54 replies, posted in Politics)

i wouldnt have a problem with the science teacher quickly explaining that Evolution is a theory that is widely accepted by scientists and that there are other theories about the creation of the world some that contradict evolution that this class wont teach you about.  but i wouldnt think much more would be appropriate.

3,407

(54 replies, posted in Politics)

einstein your description of creationism is lacking. God creating us and animals doesnt go against any of the 3 theories, yet you use it to describe creationism.

this is an example of how democratic governments fail. it takes alittle bit of common sense to say that in science classes, only scientific answers are correct and that little kids telling each other that they're going to hell isnt something that should take place in school, but freedoms, religious or not that do not infringe on the rights of others should be allowed.

3,408

(75 replies, posted in General)

mmm, just tried a German Lager, much better then that Belgian shit.

3,409

(75 replies, posted in General)

my favorite beer is probably Sierra Nevada's Pale Ale. Sam Adam's Boston Lager, is my favorite Lager, and when i try to get piss drunk, i drink hard liquor with a light beer as a chaser, useually Coor's light because i know a bar where its only $1.50 per 22oz glass. 

favorite imported beer would probably be Hoegaarden

i always prefer beer draught

i actually have my own beer fermenting in my basement.

3,410

(20 replies, posted in Politics)

its basicly inorder to be saved you need to read our books, and people spend like 300k on acouple books.

3,411

(20 replies, posted in Politics)

> sad sKoE )= wrote:

> Wouldn't capitalism be the best succeeding money scam?

capitalism has never existed... so no

3,412

(43 replies, posted in Politics)

"Lol, i think you need some history lessons, search for the time when there was the Industrial Revolution (besides with no laws there will me slavery)
workers were made to worker 12 to 16 hours and earn almost nothing."

yeah, and henry ford dramatically increased the wages and living conditions to his workers way before there were any laws to make him to, because its best for companies to do so. i think you need some history lessons if you think laws prevent slavery.

3,413

(43 replies, posted in Politics)

"Why would they have the need to provide things?"

because companies are useless without employees

"Who will then command the police? The army? Who will then judge? Who will make sure that all laws are fair?"

there would be no police, army, or laws that need to be judged.

3,414

(43 replies, posted in Politics)

"So, rather instead of an anarchy, you're now promoting corporate government, avo? "

nope, i dont promote anything that governs. right now, companies dont govern. in anarchy, you can still hire someone to protect your business, and its not a government, thats all im supporting.

"Anarchy is the lack of authority on all levels. "

that is a different type of anarchy. im against all governments, that makes me an anarchist, just because i am against governments, doesnt mean im against authority on all lvls. i dont promote a 5 year old crossing the street because his parent told him not to. im not against a company having a ceo and other leaders that have control of companies, im against governing, forcing your beliefs onto others.

"I agree, corporate government is entirely different than true anarchy."

yes, they are, and im not for coportate government....

3,415

(43 replies, posted in Politics)

"but they aren't going to stop him from burning down other people's houses just make sure he doesn't try to burn their's."

why not?

"Pay them what exactly?  Keep in mind without a regulatory body money becomes essentially worthless"

there are infinite ways to produce a type of currency. i dont see how it matter whether its paper money, gold and silver coins, or  pretty pebbles.

"you can't eat it or drink it and it doesn't make good clothing or shelter so how are you going to convince someone to give up a necessity like food or water in exchange for paper?"

because there isnt chaos and people want things other then what is needed.

"
Ok in this case the company would have to pay to supply electricity, heat, water, housing, and security.  They also have to provide either food or a salary to their employees (just to cover food mind).  Now with all these costs the company would go out of business very quickly because NOBODY is going to pay the mark up these expenses would cause.

Allow me to offer an example

Company A has 50 employees
They produce 5,000 widgets per day (100/employee)
Each widget has a production cost of $5
Pre-anarchy each employee earns a salary of $12.5/hr ($100/day)

So not factoring in energy, equipment, etc. needed to maintain the facility producing the widgets each widget would have to be sold for:
$5 + $1 = $6 just to break even

Post-anarchy there are the added costs
Let's say to provide all of the necessities it costs $3000/month/employee ($100/day)

Now lets say the company hires 100 security personnel (2-12hr shifts 1 guard/employee) at a salary of $20/hr ($160/day)
since the security personnel also have to be housed they factor into necessities costs

So our new cost to break even is
$5 + $1 + $3 (necessities costs for employee & guards) + 3.2 (guard wages) = $11.2 which is very nearly a 100% mark up in price.
"

governments are inherently wasteful, a company could provide everything through the money they saved from the lack of taxes.

3,416

(43 replies, posted in Politics)

"If a company can grow to a monopoly within laws, what is to say without a government they would be controlled? Would not instead without rules to worry them they would grow faster, bigger, stronger?
"

how could a company grow any more powerful then a government? and if a population wouldnt allow a government a certain amount of control, what makes you think they would allow a company to?

"You do not understand that history is replete with 'experiments' in how to make society safer. And full of failures. Yours is the oldest form in the history of man. Adam and Eve had no government. And Cain killed Able."

Cain and Able are fictional characters and anyone thinking otherwise knows shit about the bible. \

"Society is so ignorant, and you wish to throw them to the dogs of anarchy, where they will be shredded, robbed, killed, maimed, tortured, abused, misused, raped, and left to rot."

you act as if anarchy is any less ordered then states, but they arent. people are shredded, robbed, killed, maimed, tortured, abused, misused, raped, and left to rot in any sizable state in the world. all the huge crimes, like those mentioned easlier, the mass public wont approve of and will find a way to dissuade people from committing them, but there wont be taxation, no one will give a damn whether gays marry or if your neighbor is smoking pot; they will protect their freedoms without taking away other people's freedoms.

3,417

(43 replies, posted in Politics)

"In anarchy those same guards will one day realize "Hey we can kill all these people, and sell their houses so long as people dont think we will do it to them also... we will say it is our one time payoff for the crap positions"

there is just as much of a chance for police to do that in a government. next to impossible. the guards would be the same as police except they arent part of an inefficient government that wastes money, more is demanded of them because a company is paying them for a service.  and unless all technology magically disappeared when anarchy became, there would be no way for the guards to get away with it, and companies surrounding the area would have to kill all the guards to discourage their guards from doing it.

"
As it stands it is really hard to catch some serial killers, and serial rapists. Jeffry Dahmer, the Green River Killer, Jack the Ripper, the Zodiac Killer, the Tylenol killer, the Klu Klux Klan killings (though this would please Decimus)."

yeah because governments are after them, and theres no difference to the cops whether they find them or not, they still get paid, they still live a great life.

"With no police, and no trained persons"

there would trained persons, they just wouldnt serve a government, but a company or a neighborhood, or an individual, i dont see why that is so hard for you to understand.

"They could become the target after all, plus people resent in anarchy anyone who seems to act leaderish even if it is just a matter of skill and ability"

thats just a bias against anarchy that governments promote in their population

"a lie that pervades those who think without order we can suffice just fine."

wheres the order? if you think there's order in today's world, you're only deluding yourself. people would be able to delude themselves into thinking there is order in an anarchy just as much as they are able to in a government.

3,418

(65 replies, posted in Politics)

the democratic party has already shown how little they care about the democratic process when they took away Michigan's and FLorida's votes in the primaries, i dont see why you think its so unlikely for the superdelegates to go against who has the popular vote.

3,419

(43 replies, posted in Politics)

kenya is not anarchy, doesnt even resemble anarchy in the least...

3,420

(33 replies, posted in General)

"btw what is this  "netflix"  all about?"

you rent movies and they'll mail them to you, and then they come with envelopes to mail them back for free, and once they get them back, they'll mail you another movie on your list. and then some movies and tv series you can just watch online instead of waiting for the movie to come in the mail.

3,421

(43 replies, posted in Politics)

"Except that in anarchy there is no motivation for anyone to attempt to stop, catch, and kill the person burning down your house.  In a non-anarchist state we have police who are paid to do it, but in an anarchist state the only reason someone would stop a person from burning down your house is that the fire might spread to their house.

You have to remember that human beings are not kind, helpful, or courteous by nature these are behaviours brought on by the illusion of order.  In a situation where there is nothing for them to gain by helping or nothing to lose by not, people will probably just sit back and watch your house burn."

you're saying if there was some lunatic burning down houses for the hell of it, people wouldnt be afraid of their own houses and family becoming victim to the guy?

and you think in an anarchist state, you couldnt pay someone to protect your house. or you could split the cost with your neighbors to protect your neighborhood.

and finally if you work for a company, a company is going to give you a reason to work for them, a common bonus a company would give its employs would be a house in a safe neighborhood with guards.

3,422

(33 replies, posted in General)

[w00f] you, Elrohir

(if you want to edit my posts do not change intent of post)

3,423

(33 replies, posted in General)

damn, you mods are crazy active now, its like you guys have no life.

3,424

(33 replies, posted in General)

i need some ideas on TV series to watch on my sister's netflix account because it doesnt let you watch any good movies on the internet.

"Hm.. does the size of the mustache determines how much evil you are?"

no, you idiot. if you have a mustache, your heritage determines how evil you are. if you are from Germany or any of the surrounding countries and have a mustache, you are the anti-christ. while if you're from the oppositte part of the world from germany and have a mustache you're just a pedophile.