> ☭ Fokker wrote:

> There are four lights.

NO!  THERE ARE FIVE!

or maybe some Turkey? 

Nope, I didn't post it last time. 

Or you both could be completely uncomfortable as he begrudgingly accepts in order to preserve his freeloading system. 

> ☭ Fokker wrote:

> > avogadro wrote:
> in the US and GB and most first world countries, isnt growth primarily from immigrants and not from birth rates? condoms wont fix the problem, the only thing condoms would do is make white people a minority in all first world countries. <

  You wish, US and UK have the worst rates amongst 1st world countries for sexually transmitted diseases, teenage pregnancy, uncontrolled population growth.

Wow.  You actually said that?

1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_growth_rate
United Kingdom     0.42

This is the higher of the two estimates.  Now take 60 million and multiply it by 1.0042 31 times.  I got 68,324,738.  That's nowhere near your number.

Even if you dispute these percentages, I have a 1% population growth check (double the number on the statistics I provided).  The total population in 2040 according to that?  80,870,934.  Yes, a 33% jump.  However, the economy is also growing with that, providing resources for those people.  And this is still nowhere near 150 million.  In fact, at 1% growth, it took 91 years for the population to grow to 150 million.

2: Frankly, your comparison is crap.  The original post was talking about overall overpopulation levels globally.  When we indict that question, you shifted the discussion to a comparison of US and the UK vs other developed nations.  Why aren't you including developing nations?  They're part of the population issue.

> Justinian I wrote:
> The problem is we allow third world countries to exceed their carrying capacity. <

  The population of most third world countries makes up for about 0.001% of the total world population.

Now this is the biggest joke statement ever.
Taken literally, with 6 billion people on the planet, he is saying there are no more than 60,000 people in third world countries.  Seriously? 

But even setting that aside, your definition of "third world" is probably skewed here too.  For example, I'm going to preempt you: China isn't a developed nation, at least not entirely.  While there are significant signs of progress, most of that progress is concentrated near the ocean coast, leaving the rural areas (which is a huge landmass) nearly neglected.

But even if you guys don't buy that, I'm going to give Fokker a challenge:
Give me a general idea of what countries you consider to be "developing."

Oooh, what's it take to get in the Lemmings? 

Killed the Zodiac

Once he starts to listen to the music we have here, he'll head straight back to the 19th century.

*walks into the bar and orders a glass of water, a napkin, and ketchup

It's a crappy plane, but it's a plane with a damn 88-millimeter cannon strapped to it.

Negative points for probably tearing itself apart whenever it shoots.  Positive points for badassness.

Also note the 88-millimeter cannons, one of Nazi Germany's most awesome weapons (could be mounted on tanks or aircraft, or could be used as an anti-tank weapon or as a flak cannon).

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