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(29 replies, posted in Politics)

Libertarians are not naive. Republicans and Democrats are.

The Yell, the reasons for the Executive powers to be used against insurrections as present in the Constitution were actual insurrections which happened between the Declaration and the Constitution.

There's nothing remotely resembling an insurrection occurring in the United States. There's absolutely no evidence (no cause for the slightest suspicion) of such a thing.

Yet DHS is buying billions of rounds of ammunition (including rounds which neither police nor military use). Police are being militarized. Thousands of armored military combat vehicles are being purchased for domestic use. The military is holding drills in US urban areas--getting them ready to occupy US soil, and getting US civilians used to them being there.

Yes, The Yell, the Constitution allows the executive branch to use the US military to defend against insurrection.

Where exactly is the evidence that such an insurrection is occurring? DHS is buying enough ammo for decades of sustained war, buying thousands of armored vehicles, and training both federal and local forces in military tactics in urban warfare. And conditioning public servants to fire on civilian targets.

I talked to a friend's son last weekend. An army intelligence officer currently stationed in Europe. His father is rather Conservative/Libertarian. At some point in conversation I mentioned pregnant women targets for civilian law enforcement, and his immediate response was to affirm that he would shoot a pregnant lady before she shot him.

Of course I wouldn't object to shooting anyone in self-defense, even a pregnant lady. But why would a pregnant lady shoot at him? How in the world was he SO conditioned that all context of the conversation was lost and he was immediately defensive?  He's conditioned to be on a power trip. He's conditioned to be an arrogant, unthinking bitch of authority.

At mention of shooting civilians, all context of the conversation dropped from his mind. Conditioning kicked in. Yes, shoot the pregnant lady. Shoot the kid. Shoot all threats. Threats are defined as whatever the authority structure tells you they are. Thought off. Shoot what you're told to shoot.

That's how the Nazis, Soviets, and Chinese carried out atrocities against tens of millions. Their soldiers weren't evil, barbaric animals. At least, they didn't start out that way. They were conditioned to view everyone their command structure deemed threats to be actual threats. They were conditioned to view everyone their command structure deemed threats to be the equivalent of actual combatants.

So what if the pregnant lady isn't armed? She's resisting YOU. She's threatening YOUR AUTHORITY. She's threatening YOUR POWER. She threatens ORDER. She's attacking your COMMAND STRUCTURE. She threatens AUTHORITY ITSELF. She threatens SOCIETY ITSELF. KILL. KILL. KILL.

I'm not questioning Constitutional authority. I'm questioning your ability to think for yourself. Because you haven't provided any evidence or argument whatsoever that what DHS and the rest of the federal government is doing is REMOTELY necessary to protect against any insurrection or rebellion, let alone one which doesn't exist and there's no evidence is forming to the tiniest degree.

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(5 replies, posted in Politics)

This isn't news. He couldn't grasp "fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me."

Just like Obama pronounced corpsman "corpse-man" and then did it again months later because NOBODY around him corrected him. That's a whole new level of weird than Bush's intellectual limitations.

And Democrats and Republicans nominated them. And (near) majorities of American voters elected them.

Disgusting.

The rioting is being done by sheep demanding MORE government benefits.

They've been so emasculated they demand more tyranny as it ruins them. Epic fail.

America is next. It won't be long.

I pray we have more educated people willing to ditch the corrupt Republicans and Democrats who've been ruining our great nation for the past hundred years. As Einstein will make clear, many will put their heads in the sand and keep blaming someone else while they vote for corrupt garbage who consistently make things worse.

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(13 replies, posted in Politics)

Gatorade has sugars. Sugars don't "cause obesity," stupid lazy people too stupid and lazy to stop consuming more sugar/calories than they use cause obesity.

Some gatorade is all well and good. Literally all serious athletes drink mostly water. All those Redbull and Gatorade commercials are for suckers.

And don't drink the tap water, or give it to your kids. Fluoride reduces intelligence in developing children.

All of this should be common knowledge. tongue

No disrespect to Bobby Bueche intended. He means well. Presumably he filters that shit. Good man. Unfortunately, the script just didn't leave room for educating all you sheeple!

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(2 replies, posted in Politics)

Yeah, because it's all as simplistic as that.

Too lazy to bother learning what's going on in the world, too insecure to not run their mouths and act cocky while being clueless. Thanks for being asshats and giving Americans a bad name.

Look at your news story. They missed explosives? Then they violated what is presumed procedure and didn't take a sample for analysis? Yeah that's not fishy at all.

You're just making yourself look like a clueless fool. With more than a billion Muslims in the world, some guy allegedly getting caught with a bomb is your excuse to attack the religion itself?

Yeah, because that's not overly simplistic. It's their religion that causes violence and tyranny, not power hungry authoritarians and sheep like you too ignorant to do anything but generalize 5=1.6 billion.

And nevermind that we give millions of dollars to many of these terrorists and even give some tours of the Pentagon. You weren't told to think anything of that. So you ignore everything that's obviously corrupt and messed up, because thinking for yourself would be more than you have the nerve to do.

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(13 replies, posted in Politics)

The moderators have made it clear that they believe that some people are just genuinely idiotic and/or psychotic.

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(13 replies, posted in Politics)

The Yell doesn't accept evidence short of 100%. 99.9% probability is not even "evidence" in his view. Unless it's an anecdote, in which case it bypasses this rule and is whatever he says it is.

tongue

Off-topic rambling which makes no point relevant to anything relevant to the topic is still off-topic rambling. While it's no excuse to exclude arguments which are relevant to a topic, it's certainly fair to point out that irrelevant rambling is irrelevant rambling. The topics of forum threads aren't "whatever the drunk guy starts pointlessly going on about." That other topics may legitimately be brought up is no excuse to evade topics by rambling without purpose.

Sometimes things are so idiotic and ridiculous that "wow" is more polite than saying "holy shit dude, it sounds like you're literally on crack."

Similarly, sometimes people are quite incomprehensible and incoherent. Pointing it out isn't evading a topic, it's just pointing out that someone needs to make sense if they want a response.

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(31 replies, posted in Politics)

Whenever you make more broad claims about how women are supposedly pressured to make bad decisions significantly more than men, I'm going to point out the obvious double standard of many parts of our society idealizing promiscuous men and judging promiscuous women harshly.

You've got nothing. tongue

I might get a little power hungry and tyrannical, if I was open about my desire to do so and people kept electing me.

At some point you have to blame idiot voters. We're on a path to have saving seized, and suckers keep voting for Democrats and Republicans, neither of which is fighting the problem(s).

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(56 replies, posted in Politics)

"right" and "liberal" and "conservative" become meaningless once you accept every misuse and alternation of these terms that's been claimed in recent years.

The notion that Democracy is liberal, even when the people are a mob led by tyrants, is silly. Similarly, the notion that socialism is liberal because it claims to be a state of equality is ridiculous. Unless you accept the raping of the word "liberal" to mean "authoritarian," as many do today.

But once we start to accept the way these words have been butchered and radically altered, there's no sense in discussing language, because it literally has no meaning. When a word has been hijacked by those who espouse views literally the opposite of its original meaning, there's no sense discussing groups and views with these terms. Literally everything and nothing is true of them. They hold no meaning in and of themselves.

Gun control is a means of making a population docile and helpless. It is supported by tyrants. Authoritarians. Would-be tyrants. Fascists. Call such things "conservative" if you choose to define the word that way (many self-identified conservatives champion individual rights and small government, in which case your definition is massively at odds with theirs). Call them "liberal" (Thomas Jefferson was liberal and he certainly didn't support this tyranny, yet the word has been hijacked by people Jefferson would literally shoot in the face for decades in Amerika.).

These words no longer have meaning outside of the context they're used in. Because, in common-use by the sheeple and their slave-masters today, they're used to signify radically different things than they were just decades ago, let alone farther into the past.

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(56 replies, posted in Politics)

Of course one fascist authoritarian eugenicist organization looks like another.

Godwin's law is relevant when unrelated topics lead to mention of Nazism. Of course it's funny when that happens, not rational, and it's insightful to point out that someone had to make a Nazi reference because they couldn't logically argue their position. But it's perfectly logical to mention Nazism when comparing it to another fascist eugenicist state (or its creation).

One can certainly claim that Hitler and his Nazi/socialist/authoritarian/fascist views weren't entirely wrong. One can certainly argue for some of those views. But I don't have a problem with pointing out that some of those views are shared with Hitler. I think all authoritarian/fascist views are inherently immoral and pragmatically horrible. It's not inherently irrational to remind people that they were the views of Nazis.

If someone wants to argue that the Nazis were right about some things, that's for them to argue. They're free to make an argument that partial tyranny which has historically often been part of more tyranny later is totally innocent in a particular case. It'll probably be ridiculously naive and silly, but they're entitled to their opinion that a little Nazism is a good thing and not a slippery slope.

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(56 replies, posted in Politics)

He's quoting Hitler directly.

Everyone else who hates freedom is as authoritarian as Hitler. This comparison is very direct. Godwin's law does not apply. The topic isn't being stretched SO far as to include a Hitler/Nazi reference. The topic IS authoritarians, like Hitler, seeking to confiscate all firearms.

They're making trillions off of them right now.

It is precisely their control of currencies which enables them to saddle entire nations without mountains of debt, infinitely paying massive interest, infinitely taxing the working to the benefit of the globalist elite who own them like livestock.

Your problem is thinking all "richies" are some distinct group of evil people who've somehow morally failed humanity by being successful. Your philosophy is based on ignorance and jealousy. You envy the man with 5 million, a big house and kids in private school. To you he's no different than the man with 150 billion who controls trillions who actively inflates your currency and saddles your nation with debt, making you a slave.

You don't know the difference between them, because you're jealous of both, and that's the sole basis of your philosophy.

The "richies" who aren't using mankind like livestock and seeking to more completely enslave man aren't a problem. I could give a shit what a man with 5 million does with his money. It's his money. Get over it.

The men controlling trillions inflating my currency a few percent every year (taxing me, my family, and all of us endlessly) and saddling my nation with debt (taxing me, my family, and all of us endlessly) are a big problem.

And so are ignorant sheep who can't tell the difference between the two.

I just responded about bitcoin because Xeno suggested it would be a safe haven for globalists (international banking elite seeking to enslave the world).

I pointed out that globalists don't like it because it gives people an option outside of their fiat currencies. Options outside of fiat money means an escape from constant theft via inflation. (Not only do they gain money via printed cash given directly to them, but they buy up real assets when inflation results in rock bottom prices)

I pointed out that globalists don't need to use it as a safe haven because they are the manipulators of currency and they can move to currencies they're not about to devalue dramatically or buy gold or hard assets or literally anything else they want.

If you're done embarrassing yourself with false claims of credentials (you are a driver, so 1/6 isn't bad, statistically, as far as your knowledge of statistics is concerned), feel free to actually talk about the topic of this thread. You gave us nothing with that last post. Swing and a miss!

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(55 replies, posted in Politics)

People leave stupid comments? This is news.

Perhaps you should invest some of that cash in securing the hardware you've invested in. You know that, statistically, far more value of the dollar is lost through inflation alone than bitcoins are stolen, right? And bank holdings (along with other assets the government tracks) are at risk when our debt bills come due, right? What alternative are you suggesting?

I wasn't mocking your cash. All work is respectable, even yours. I was mocking your frequent MASSIVELY exaggerated claims of expertise on various subjects, all of which you know next to nothing about.

The Euro was never meant to be a strong European currency. It was meant to make European nations' parliaments irrelevant in taking control of European industry. It has been a smashing success.

Haha I'm just reading stories now. This is funny stuff. He had something of a point (though outdated), but none of it's a problem if your computer is secure. Nothing worse than has been a problem with credit cards for years.

No worries, Einstein. You can't afford a GPU anyway. You can safely use bitcoins.

Einstein is very knowledgeable about this stuff. He's a programmer, hacker, and cyber crime expert.

It's just a coincidence that his anecdotal terror stories coincide with fear-mongerers trying to squash competition to massively inflating private-bank-regulated currencies.

Nevermind that bit coin values have risen dramatically of late. Nevermind that he doesn't know what GPU means. He's been told to be afraid, and he is.

It's coming here too. Just wait for it. sad

Xeno,

The rich don't need bitcoins to avoid taxes. They've bought the governments that tax their livestock.

They hate bitcoin (and other free market currencies) because it allows other people than them to beat the scam international banking system of constant taxation via inflation and other government mechanisms (such as the topic of this thread).

Few people today have the land to grow all of their own food. Some are even prosecuted for doing it! We've been made into dependent, incompetent fools for generations. Intentionally.



The Yell,

As far as the FDIC is concerned, such a "fee" isn't a loss to be insured against. Hell, they're just making sure your money is secure until it's time for government to take it all. You don't need it. You're a better, more dependent, more patriotic cow for the globalist banker elite to milk without it. God forbid you can take care of yourself. You'd be out of their control!

The FDIC is owned by the same international bankers who are stealing Cyprus' money. They're not going to regulate against their own interests. There's absolutely no chance they'd do anything about government robbery of Americans' accounts.

And yes, obviously we're in an inflationary period.

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(31 replies, posted in Politics)

The obligation is yours to prove that women do in fact engage in such risky behavior more often than men.

The obligation is yours to prove that culture and institutions are responsible for such a distinction in behavior between the sexes, if you can first prove that such a distinction exists. I simply presumed you were referencing an intellectual limitation because you provided evidence of nothing else.

Obviously you have evidence of neither, in addition to being able to offer absolutely no evidence of anything else you've said.

You've got faith in your own theory and you'll be damned if anybody questions it. You have faith, so you offer us absolutely no evidence to consider.

You're claiming that women make more risky decisions than men then attributing it to cultural (sociological) factors. Granted, you can claim any unverified trend you want (as you do here) differentiating the sexes and explain it via sociological factors and claim it's not sexist, because the distinguishing factors are external.

But you haven't ruled out a sexist explanation of the difference you allege between sexes either. After all, both sexes are exposed to a large amount of a great variety of socializing factors. Bear in mind that your own experiences are obviously quite bizarre and not representative of norms or those of the average male.

You're simply throwing out a baseless theory and there's no reason to argue against it. You've got no evidence to offer, so there's nothing to consider. That's why you're just repeating "gotcha" attempts at tying me to a particular logical argument you suppose I'm making, and making exclusively.

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(31 replies, posted in Politics)

All you've got is a massive assumption. I don't need any form of logical argumentation to point it out.

Maybe women commonly engage in risky sex because they want to have it. Maybe they commonly engage in it despite risks because they're trashy human beings who desire attention and orgasms more than they are responsible people who care about the risks.

Why would women engage in unwanted sex? Most can find plenty of wanted sex. In my experience, they both seek it and quite enjoy it.

Your entire theory is baseless and, I suspect, rooted in some psychological disturbance you suffer from relating to the opposite sex.

Women need special help because of some generalized societal view forced upon them? What would you know about societal trends, creep?

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(31 replies, posted in Politics)

You have absolutely no empirical data to support your supposed aggregate.

Your position is entirely based upon a fictional narrative you've made up.

You say that you believe that women understand their risks just fine, then you go on to repeat that they're unable to make rational decisions regarding those risks and their lives and need help.

Tell us more about women. You're obviously an expert.

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(31 replies, posted in Politics)

Your entire position is predicated upon the notion that women are unable to be aware of their own socialization be reach any level of self-actualization. Nevermind that this position is based upon a massive overgeneralization--not all women are as trashy and raised to accept being disrespected as you attribute to the socialization of all women. You do understand that many women have completely different values than that, right? You do understand that many women even use men, right? It doesn't seem like you're aware that women come in any other type than those who put up with abuse and lies and give up sex in order to be with a man.

And you go on to explain your chauvinism with irrelevant references to statistical risks. Because statistical facts regarding STD transmission make any particular individual men and women incapable of responsibly deciding whether or not to have sex with someone? No, they don't.

You're just upset because I'm inspecting what your philosophy is based upon: Suppositions regarding culture which are massive overgeneralizations, and the supposition that women are uniquely incapable of being aware of themselves and their socialization and self-actualizing enough to be awake and aware and make good decisions.

Facts like pregnancy physically effecting women (whereas it doesn't effect men) and STD rates are just facts women must consider when deciding to sleep with a man, just as a man has to consider STDs, possible emotional commitment (of both partners), societal norms, etc. They're just facts that women have to be aware of. Just as there are facts men have to be aware of.

Just as awareness of one's own socialization and evaluation of what of that socialization entails (and consideration of other social values) are to be considered. Both men and women similarly evaluate the statistical health risks and the significance of having sex to interpersonal relationships/society/etc.

But women, you claim, aren't capable of being responsible for their own decisions like men are. They can't consider STD rates and pregnancy like men can! While all the facts are known to both, women are uniquely incapable of taking them under consideration and making good decisions like men can! While both men and women are socialized to view sex (and the opposite sex) in a wide variety of ways, it's women you claim who are uniquely incapable of being aware of their socialization (or altering their values) as men are!

You're clearly stating a sexist position that women aren't as capable of rational thought as men are. Rational thought allows for consideration of statistical risks and socialization. But women, you claim, aren't as capable of evaluating these things like men can. Your claim is that, because women suffer certain risks statistically more then men, women are uniquely incapable of making good decisions with an awareness of those increased risks.

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(31 replies, posted in Politics)

So you're basing your position on legal policy upon the notion that women are too inept/stupid/irresponsible to engage in safe sex by their own decision and capacity.

Nope, didn't put words in your mouth. You just confirmed it but you didn't like having it broken down into more clear language.

I don't disagree that men can be irresponsible. But, unlike you, I neither blame women's irresponsibility on men's irresponsibility, nor do I believe either to be sound legal basis for legislation.

You said:
"If men did that, we wouldn't need this debate about abortion or publicly paid contraception for women."

This is simple language. You clearly stated that we need debate about abortion and publicly funded contraception for women because men are irresponsible. This is very obviously predicated upon the notion that women are too stupid/inept/[something else] to make good decisions for themselves.

You're claiming that I "put words in [your] mouth," but your statement speaks for itself. And you certainly didn't correct me in restating that you blame men for irresponsibility because women are too stupid to be responsible.

Again, I don't disagree that men can be irresponsible. But you clearly blame men more than women, a position predicated upon the notion that men are the more intelligent/responsible sex culpable for moral/cultural/societal failures. You clearly stated (and then restated) this position, but accuse me of misrepresenting your position rather than defending it. Perhaps you are a woman, and that is why you cower away from discourse and instead try to conflate the issue?

Furthermore, you clearly call for (and called for again) law based upon the notion that women are incapable of making decisions for themselves, requiring government to provide contraception which literally costs dollars/month. You think women are so stupid/inept that they cannot afford a box or few of condoms per month, yet shy away from defending that position when questioned? It doesn't sound like you believe very strongly in your position, since you abandon it, deny you stated it, then restate it in the same post.