f**k it, what happens, happens. we will fight this as well as we can, and hopefully can not get ripped a new butthole either. gl and hf to all, i can tell you now, i will not go down without a fight this time, i gots a point to prove

and 47 too.

w00t

> Bartender wrote:

> and 47 too.

lol, why?? we are cool

goddamn can you prove I am lying? NO

You guys were 1 mill NW ahead, thats completely true, prove me wrong, we were still down from losing to 49 X(

ok, my little list of dirty wee tricks used by them to gain more advantage over us... just so everyone knows what we're up against

first, our war with 61 ends, 58s war with 47 continues... 61 agrees to give us 75 planets for a NAP... 61 explores a few planets and gives us coords to them... Metrex finds out about it and tells Tja to take them, knowing they were payment planets to us

[20:37] <Metrex> HJ we'll probably take that system
[20:37] <HappyJedi> then youre a dick
[20:37] <Metrex> and 61 wont re explore for you

sounds like it is purely out of spite... we have read in this thread that Tja claims to have taken those planets so 48 wouldnt gain more shares with him... he only took SOME of the planets 61 explored for us in that system, I took the rest... if it was his intention to ensure we dont gain any more shares with him, wouldnt he have taken all the planets? like i said, done purely out of spite

anyway, thats fair enough, they had no nap with 61 so had every right to take the planets

Sometime the next day, Metrex had grown some balls and decided he wanted to flaunt his fam's apparent superiority over mine, offering a 1v1 with 49, picking a later date to war, giving us sufficient recovery time, them waiting for allies to finish with 47

[19:50] <Metrex> HJ
[19:50] <Metrex> i want a good war
[19:50] <Metrex> not a push over
[19:50] <Metrex> lol
[19:50] <Metrex> plus
[19:51] <Metrex> if you jump as high as us
[19:51] <Metrex> you have equel opertunity
[19:51] <Metrex> to rape us
[19:51] <Metrex> why not agree to a 1 on 1 then
[19:51] <Metrex> ?

[19:11] <Metrex> why dont we set a date then?
[19:11] <Metrex> of when attacks can happen
[19:11] <Metrex> and its up to you
[19:11] <Metrex> to do whatever you want up till then

[19:47] <Metrex> i said id give you recovery
[19:47] <Metrex> and you try find loopholes
[19:47] <Metrex> lol
[19:47] <HJ|AFK> try to avoid a 2v1 war?
[19:47] <HJ|AFK> against 2 bigger fams?
[19:47] <HJ|AFK> gee i wonder
[19:47] <Metrex> ofc we'd wait for 58 to finnish

but no, later on, they realise we have better infra and would have saved a lot more than them by the time a war came along... suddenly, all bets were off... NAP is canceled with very little recovery time (3 days), while 58 is still at war with 47 and, of course, 2v1

[21:14] <HappyJedi> whats your fam?
[21:14] <SmackOne> 52
[21:14] <HappyJedi> you gonna let us fight 49 1v1?
[21:14] <SmackOne> no

Granted, Metrex did show a little willingness to not vulture, but a little too little

[19:33] <Forever> Week 27, 15
[19:34] <Forever> Nes you gona napp 58? we wana cancel on them! lol
[19:34] <Forever> Signed, Metrex of Mortal Metrex (3449)
[19:34] <Forever> lololol

Anyway, after all this shit-talk with Metrex, i tried my very best to buy as much time as i could to at least salvage some kind of savings and preparation for a war, so i basically vomit out whatever words would confuse him the most... it was easy and worked very well

As for actual cheating to gain more of an advantage, here we go... LOK in 3449 asking a player in 3451 to hand over planets and cooperate, even saying they were going to use those planets to attack us

Planet 20 in the xx,yy system
This planet is owned by Xxxxxx of Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
sorry. I need that planet. I have put up a portal there. Surrender it peacefully please.
Signed, LOC of LOK (3449)

Week 44, 15
please just hand that planet over. we have left you alone the entire round, and its not like you plan on attacking 48 anyways.
Signed, LOC of LOK (3449)

Week 44, 15
Only two planets we need. Please be cooperative.
Signed, LOC of LOK (3449)

I was informed that 49 were trying to use 51 to gain more shares so, we then cleared 51 from a lot of systems, luckily including the 2 planets 49 asked them for... When LOK realised he was busted trying to cheat, he was not happy at all!

Week 3, 17
Your a snitch. I should not have even gave you an option and just took the damn planet. You and hj will be reported and banned for illegal alliance. You gave up those planets to 48 knowing we would take it to attack them. Have a nice 3 day without ic cheater.
Signed, LOC of LOK (3449)

Clearly admitting that they would use the planets to attack us... I am sure many people would call that IA right there but, apparently, its not quite enough evidence for mods to do anything about... i would not be surprised if these messages are deleted by a mod considering it may or may not be still under investigation... however, i feel it is important that people know just how sneaky these rats have been

So, there you have it... almost every dirty little trick in the book... before all this took place, visions of 49 showed them with at least 25 million iron and 2 million endu, when my fam had a total of 6 million iron and around 400k endu... we had very little chance of winning any war with them before any of this happened, let alone after... they just had to use any trick they could to gain even more of an advantage on us... in a way, i suppose this is a compliment to my fam... these 2 huge fams need to out-save us, lie and cheat just so they feel they have a chance at beating us... we are that awesome

that all being said, i will not void our NAP... i will do whatever i can against these people to try and salvage a little fun out of all this... thats what this game is all about, isnt it? fun? i dont know anymore

oh and where was the part about you "canceling" on Render to avoid the war?

since you guys co operated to trick me.. lol

HappyJedi> which we explored when we thought we were going to ally them
<Metrex> you were happy to give violations away
<Metrex> because you wanted a drawn out war
<HappyJedi> not happy to give violations away at all
<HappyJedi> all that the other day was 100% to confuse you, thats all
<HappyJedi> thats what i meant by "thats what i do"
<Metrex> in the end you cancelled on 47 to avoid us mainly
<Metrex> which was low
<Metrex> i dont care for it anymore
<Metrex> whats done is done
<HappyJedi> i didnt even cancel on them
<HappyJedi> so its not done
<HappyJedi> maybe we can have a nice big war next weekend or something
<Metrex> so they cancelled on you
<Metrex> dont paraphrase that
<Metrex> lol
<HappyJedi> but i still dont know what i should do... really tough decisions
<HappyJedi> there was no cancelation between me and render
<HappyJedi> from either side

hmmm coordinating with a enemy fam to work against another fam kinda seems like an IA to me too

That would have been an F Mod not an actual mod

umm did you change allies?

i dont think so... so you did..

+ you act all tough about giving in nap violations but you have your own nap vios in 47's core lol ... double standards noob

> Metrex wrote:

> umm did you change allies?

i dont think so... so you did..

you are starting to make less sense

i am actually willing to surrender our planets in render's core... LFA hasnt replied to any of my messages at all... i have seen him online plenty

you were working together to trick me when you wernt allies and still had an ally.. thats like saying ... Render can you op 49 we will ally you after..

lol pathetic HJ go read allies 101

<Flashy> btw, hj is very likely to void unless the time is changed, this not a threat from me, im just being honest with you

anddddd QQ much?