Re: EU vs. US
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I like the Vatican Euros, though! ![]()
> ~*~Serenity~*~ wrote:
> > esa wrote:
> There are no roads in Europe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OECD_countries_by_road_network_size
Dont see where anyone said that Europe had no roads, but thanks for proving the point that the US has way more roads than Europe so private transportation is much faster/simpler/cheaper.
I bet you were looking at the total network length of all public instead of road density... An observant viewer would also have noticed that not all European nations were listed.
Dollars look like asswipe. smile <<
wtf you been eating that you shit abe lincoln?
From wikipedia:
"The Commission of the European Communities issued a recommendation on 19 December 2008, a common guideline for the national sides and the issuance of euro coins intended for circulation. One section of this recommendation stipulates that:
Article 5. Changes to the national sides of regular euro coins intended for circulation:
"... the designs used for the national sides of the euro coins intended for circulation denominated in euro or in cent should not be modified, except in cases where the Head of State referred to on a coin changes ... A temporary vacancy or the provisional occupation of the function of Head of State should not give the right to change the national sides of the regular euro coins intended for circulation."
This change means that there will be no more "Sede Vacante" series of the regular Vatican euro coins, although the issue of commemorative "Sede Vacante" series (usually Gold and Silver coins), having legal tender in Vatican City only, remains possible. .[5]<<
JERKS
first off the "rights" of the sovereign member states (at least we're assured they're still sovereign) are not "given" by circumstances, it is that the states possess them a priori; and if the Committee has a proposal that they agree to limit their use for a common good, let it say so without whining that sovereign states act on their own
second how fricking often do European heads of state change anyhow
third what about the rights of Americans to cool cufflinks
worst currency ever
> Chris_Balsz wrote:
> Dollars look like asswipe. smile <<
wtf you been eating that you shit abe lincoln?
One dollar bills change hands so often, I rarely see one that's not incredibly filthy. ![]()
"second how fricking often do European heads of state change anyhow"
A Queen abdicates/dies, a Crown-prince becomes King etc. It happens.
Other nations without royalty have it worse though, Germany for instance has an eagle on it's coins. Considering that's not a head of state, they're stuck with it. Atleast that's my interpretation of the rules.
maybe when the eagle dies they get to have an egg
seriously though WTF is the issue, so what if ever member nation has a different face on its coin every month, if they pay for it? is it that computers scan for the face on the coin or something? or that you secretly hate each other's monarchs and nobody wants the wrong coin? Run a series of waterfowl Euro or Star Wars characters, have fun with it
series of a Roman legio with the different officers in their armor would be cool
> Einstein wrote:
> Now about Europe versus the United States. Europe has a different history than the United States. A long history >of strong governments, smaller communities, and more recently... social upheaval due to war and the collapse of >the USSR. These factors make Europe way different than the United States. <
They make the European Union OLDER than America, more experienced, more mature... we're the kindly old war hero uncle U teenagers realise you should have listened to when [stuff] blows up in your face.
> The United States is commonly quoted for our high crime rates and criminal incarceration. This however is due to >one huge issue... Ease of trading locations. No other nation has this ease, in Germany you can only go so far >before your out of Germany. Russia, or it's precursor the USSR, does not have easy location trading. Especially in >the old USSR... you wanted to move, you had best have not just a good reason, but permission from a dozen >different groups. <
High crime rates and high prison populations were endemic to both the USA and the USSR. They were/are simply too damn big to manage from a single, central location.
> But modern Russia is still an issue getting around. You cannot just find a flat just like that, and a job. No, it is a >bit different. But the United States... you can get around here with exceptions for Alaska and Hawaii, with just a >thumb. No passport needed, no language barriers, no lack of roads, just the wide expanse that is America for you >to see at your will (As I have extensively in the past year and a half). <
The USSR had good intentions but accidentally turned into a caricature of its old enemy, the USA. It is 1986 in the USSR.
> And the United States has no system of humiliation, or personal honor like the East has... Additionally we have >the problem of being center to two forms of drugs, having created many more forms, and being the primary >destination for another. Our very success at shipping and industry even subjects us to the issues of the poppy... >Yes we are the drugs cross roads of the world. Then as discussed elsewhere we have problems with judges and >laxity of law. <
Actually Russia is the heroin/cannabis crossroads of the world. Out of the middle east and up into Russia then either turn left for Europe (ending in the UK) or turn right for Japan/USA. The cocaine producers of South America are their own crossroads.
To be honest I think Americas' "crossroads" theory is just a smokescreen to enable America to deal with the problem without accepting that America is full of drugs because... ...America WANTS drugs.
> Lets also go over some other issues. Europe, for most of it at least, suffered under World War II like only parts >of China, Japan, and Eastern Russia did. Europe took a different route than those other places, and is much more >fearful of wars than ever before in their history. This is a simple fact. But a side effect of the war also intrudes... >Emotions. <
Fearful? Considerate of, Aware of, consequences. Just like the USA would be if the entire continent was leveled by war, twice.
Fear.... HA!
> Yes I said emotions. I have seen this all to often, where a European will be more emotional about a subject than >clinical. If they think it is wrong to do something, nothing will change them in their thinking short of a mountain in >their path. Evidence has no meaning, they can see evidence after evidence and never change their tune. Like >European support for Liberal Americans... despite the vast huge differences in what those two socialism's are. No >evidence will sway them, they ignore the huge spending for people who donate to Democrats, but scream at >those who donate to Republicans (who get no spending lol). They ignore the double and triple standards, the lies, >the everything, in exchange for keeping their own personal world view intact. <
Was with you until "evidence has no meaning". Not going to call you names for it, but it is bollocks.
Leftist Euros support "leftist" Americans DESPITE the obvious differences, difference they are well aware of. They support them because they are the closest thing America has to a left wing political party (without getting stupid).
But I'll give you a bean: You DID describe somewhere.
> If a European is an Atheist, you can never get them to admit the good things the Christian community does, but >you can easily get them to attack it. They are set in their emotional ways, no good deed would ever be noticed >past the day, the hour, the minute that it happened. <
Atheists do not attribute the good of Christianity to their Christianity, they attribute the good of Christianity to their Humanity.
Atheists do not attribute the evil of Christianity to their Christianity, they attribute the evil of Christianity to their lack of Humanity.
JUST being Christian is not enough, YOU have to have gotten up off of YOUR arse and done something, k?
>This onset of emotions was caused by the damages of World War II in my opinion, where people were so >traumatized by the outcomes that they fled from the true world, thinking if they ignored parts then they could >survive. This ignoring goes on today at the cost of Europe's greatness. <
Now you're talking horrible, horrible truth!
> Now I need to change the tune here, to something else. Europe loves trains... oh they truly do, they have them >everywhere, and sadly most lack any wit to know why it seems. Consider the United States, no borders, roads >everywhere, versus Europe, borders everywhere with few roads over them...
>I hope a bell went off in some peoples heads, but if not... well is it easier or harder to check 100 cars and pickup >trucks, or 1 train with 150 people? Is it easier to control access at one point, or one hundred points? <
Cooking with gas...
> Europe's own history has made it require trains. This is the difference between it and the United States. The >United States has no internal border guards, no need for limiting access to one State or another.
>It is our freedom to go anywhere there are jobs, where we wish, that makes us enjoy roads. I travel every day >down them, often up to 600 miles a day.
>In Europe however there is no legacy of roads going endlessly... there were borders. Things are changing, I see it >indeed.. but a lot of the old mentality lives on... that trains are the big deal down there. Of course they are >convenient... of course they are better placed than your roads... of course all this and all that... It was what your >nations relied upon for trade! Of course they prioritized it! <
One thing I'd like to point out: "Quick, get to the state line, they can't follow us over the line"
And then there's the Canadian border... the one you can walk over, unmolested.
> Lastly... If I say Grand Canyon, Old Faithful, Crater Lake, or Salt Lake... how many of you outside of the United >States have heard of at least two?
>These are natural area's, not man made, which are landmarks of their own. Europe... I cannot name one for >Europe... But what I can name are great cities that have fallen, architecture that remains, and great wars. Where >are your landmarks? For all of the world, you are the most history following of the world, thinking your very >history grants you ascendancy (though China also falls into this trap), for you think your thousands of years of >history grants you this. All I can see is fallen empires, schisms, divisism, animosity for others, and so forth. The >United States have been united since 1776, with one civil war between. How many nations have split, how many >vanished, how many wars between each other has Europe seen since that time? You try to compare to us, but I >say, you are wrong to compare... we are DIFFERENT. <
You probably have a good point, but there is no way in hell I am going to listen to a guy from a country where over 90% of the populace have never owned a passport, 50% thinks England is an American state, and who the [rumplestilskin] hasn't heard of L'Arc de Triomphe, Eiffel Tower, Berlin Wall, Tower of London, Leaning Tower of Piza, The Acropolis, St Pauls Cathedral, The Vatican, that solid-gold (almost) Belgian church I never remember the name of, the B52 caf
in fact I should make some fake euro, no law against it over here, with Droopy Dog on the face and it will be perforated so Yanks can break them off in the coin slots when they're over there
> Chris_Balsz wrote:
> maybe when the eagle dies they get to have an egg
seriously though WTF is the issue, so what if ever member nation has a different face on its coin every month, if they pay for it? is it that computers scan for the face on the coin or something? or that you secretly hate each other's monarchs and nobody wants the wrong coin? Run a series of waterfowl Euro or Star Wars characters, have fun with it
series of a Roman legio with the different officers in their armor would be cool
Probably to much of a hassle.
news of the future
"BERN- Horror and rage swept through this normally tranquil city when police retrieved a euro coin with a string taped to it from a vending machine.
The machine, dispensing canned soda, was located on the third floor of the railway station. The coin was discovered by maintenance crews early Monday morning. The railway, and the airport, were immediately closed. Three brigades of the Swiss military set up roadblocks, the Aare river was mined and a dusk to dawn curfew was imposed on the city.
Residents were shocked. "This never happened, not even during the war with the spies killing each other" said Hildegard Nubdorfles.
It was not revealed how many cans of soda were stolen. A manufacturer's representative said that up to two dozen cans might have been stolen, though of course one can was paid for.
Police refused official comment, but a high police official said confidentially that Americans were primary suspects due to the ruthless nature of the crime.
"Whoever did this, we will cut off his balls" said the official. "Unless he's from Turkey or something, then we'll have dialogue."
US currency is annoying
-bills look very alike
-way too many coins, when in the US I kept accumulating little coins that I couldn't do anything with because it took me ages to sort them for payment in a store and I like to get things over with!
-1$ bills should be coins, preferably there should be 2$ coins too, reason for this is ease of use in vending machines
>>US currency is annoying<<
yes this is to encourage you foriegners to get rid of it
>>-bills look very alike<<
see above
>>-way too many coins, when in the US I kept accumulating little coins that I couldn't do anything with because it took me ages to sort them for payment in a store and I like to get things over with!<<
for one thing we can't admit we should just devalue our dollar by 10% so the penny buys something
for another you're supposed to make up for our lack of social services by saying "Keep the Change"
>>-1$ bills should be coins, preferably there should be 2$ coins too, reason for this is ease of use in vending machines<<
We have a $2 bill that is not accepted by many people who assume its fake
and yes Americans waste time faking currency, somebody in MN used a $200 Tweety bird bill to buy a $1.98 yogurt cone and got $102 in change
we have a $1 coin, we have 2 $1 coins
they are the size of the quarter, which pissed everybody off and they put women on them, which pissed off people who want more Presidents honored, and one of the women wasn't even a US citizen, and the Post office vending machines spit them out as change but won't take them for payment and neither will anybody else's machines, not even the bus, so they die a slow death in bank vaults.
I now officially hate Google and the G1 phone on TMobiles network.
I cannot reply to your post Fokker, though well written it is. I will now end my boycott of wireless cards and get one soon as I fix my laptops screen or get a new laptop. I hate google worse now.
The subject is piss-poor too Nemeara..
should we make it EU vs Africa and Asiastans, just to be fair?
they play better soccer
How about the australians, havent heard much about them lately. Or maybe we can talk about the North Pole. I can see that being an intense conversation.
The great firewall of australia stops the internet there, so that's why no word.
"Re: EU vs. US> East wrote:
> US currency is annoying
-bills look very alike
-way too many coins, when in the US I kept accumulating little coins that I couldn't do anything with because it took me ages to sort them for payment in a store and I like to get things over with!
-1$ bills should be coins, preferably there should be 2$ coins too, reason for this is ease of use in vending machines
1. Bills look very alike? Wow talk about someone being slow or just problems reading... its really not hard at all...
2. Way too many coins? I accumulated all the damn 1 and 2 euro coins that I had after living in Italy for about a month and came up to over 30 euro in 1 euro cons and about 20 euro in 2 euro coins.... yeah thats [really really really, like to the point that i had to use inappropriate language due to my inability to properly express myself without doing so] stupid. All the other smaller ones are waste, though I use the 20/50 coins for parking since you europeans have to pay for damn near everything... American way is better/more convenient. Plus we have nice little "Coinstar" machines you can take all the change you gather and get cash, I've yet to see such machine in the few countries Ive been to in Europe so far.
3. As for your $1 should be coins. Youre insane.... read above.
Europeans are so backwards."
I think you didn't understand what I said
I said:
-bills look very alike
-way too many coins, when in the US I kept accumulating little coins that I couldn't do anything with because it took me ages to sort them for payment in a store and I like to get things over with!
-1$ bills should be coins, preferably there should be 2$ coins too, reason for this is ease of use in vending machines
I agree it's probably not easy to understand all the meaning and nuance in these words, but I urge you to try.
"should we make it EU vs Africa and Asiastans, just to be fair? they play better soccer"
football !!! ![]()
i dont see a single argument in your post.
you only post that YOU had problems in working with coins. I read that you in the US have these change boxes (we have them here aswell though).
I read that YOU do EU bashing and US praising. And i see you clearly lack the knowledge to argue.
As most euros prolly lack the knowledge to argue about the US.. and most US guys prolly lack the knowledge to argue about the EU.
How to blind people realize the difference between the $ bills btw? is there any marking?
they can't which is why a federal judge ruled our currency is discriminatory
unless we teach the blind to read the faces of the presidents
They get debit cards.
And also i agree with the keeping the one and two dollar coins away from the U.S. Think about it. Say you had 200$ in 1$ bills. Now think about 200 in 1$ coins. Which one is more convenient and much cooler to keep in your wallet.
Feel like a Medieval Knight carrying around bunches of big ol shiny coins.
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