LIbertarians are my pet peeve. So close to being Conservatives, but these guys are way out there in general from Conservatives, that to me, they make Liberals seem like they have got it together. After all the evidence of drunks beating wives, crashing cars, and fighting at times, how can they stand to legalize drugs?

Legalization to them is all drugs. This, or even legalizing minor drugs, is insane. As a transport officer of drug addicts, I can tell you... Some cannot control their actions anymore. I have seen the feral look of an animal in human eyes, I have seen communities destroyed, I have read about the deaths created.

Drugs are controlled because the nations of the world saw, first hand, the damage uncontrolled drugs did. They saw it, but Libertarians dismiss it, or never cared to investigate history in the first place.

I hear arguments ranging from all to just pot. I have lived with potheads on occassion (I have had a hard life, you take what you can get sometimes). I can tell you with all honesty that this drugs affects some people in the most severe of ways. There are some who would steal for this drug. Libertarians answer... lock those people up... There are some who need a bigger drug after using this... LIbertarians have all sorts of answers about that, but the most common response is "it is not a gateway drug".

There are some who have no effect, not even a buzz or a hunger pang... I dunno what Libertarians say about those people... There are some who have no harmful effects, perhaps even some helpful effects like improved vision... Libertarians point at those people a lot... Then there is the PARANOID SCHRIZO (Yeah I am talking about you! *watch for those who now run away without reading further, lol*) who cannot control their Paranoia. I lived with two of those. Talk about extremists. My own father used to be one of those. There is always a conspiracy around the corner, everything is a conspiracy, even the conspiracy's are conspiracy's...

This platform of legalization of drugs is insanity in my opinion, and in the opinion of much of America. Libertarians will never successfully get to be a major party so long as this is a platform.

Then there is the other side of the coin for Libertarians, the other aspect which will keep them from ever getting to be a major party.

That is Isolationism.

Libertarians believe they can solve all the worlds problems... by... not getting involved in the worlds problems.

Remarkable, but true.

They think that there will never be another Hitler, another Mussolini, another Japanese Emporer who can threaten the world. They think that no war is just, and we must just stay out. Or wait, they think a defensive war is the only just war.

Indeed they forget Napoleon , Genghis Khan , Mao, and Stalin . Those people invaded nations posing no threat to them. Sometimes you just need to identify evil rulers or nations and destroy them. Libertarians disagree .

Napoleon took on, right after his own nations civil war, ALL of the recognized World Powers of the time. His nation was considered weak at the end of the civil war...

Genghis Khan took over a small  tribe and kept increasing his reach. His son took over the empire and raided Europe with impunity . Genghis and his children rose from a single village to one of the three largest empires in human history .

Mao started a civil  war against a large nation which enjoyed the support of one of the two World Superpowers . He later invaded Tibet , Vietnam , and tried several times to invade  the USSR . He also fought other nations. Do not forget China fought America in Korea , supported the Vietcong and developed nukes. Add their constant spying and you should  realize they are still imperialistic .

How many nations enjoyed being owned by Stalin ? How did they threaten him? How many did he kill for wanting freedom? Libertarians think the fate of those nations cannot be repeated upon the United States . Did Poland expect to be invaded ? Or Afghanistan ? Did the Georgians see the Russians as occupiers or as long term liberators ?

Libertarians say it is always someone else's responsibility , that no way we should be involved . They never learn that an infection untreated spreads .

Human history shows evil people are never sated.

Libertarians also ignore the effects of violence done in the name of justice . Libya had been one of three nations, including Iran and N. Korea to recieve nuclear weapons technology from the head of Pakistans nuclear weapons research team. Pakistan of course has nuclear weapons and the other three have reasons to desire it.

Libya no longer desired weapons after they saw what we would do to a nation percieved to have WMD's. After our invasion of Iraq they immeadiately turned over their entire trove of supplies and manuscripts on how to make the weapons.

This is not the only nation to give up after violence, or for fear of violence, nuclear programs. Two other nations have done so. S. Africa, which is rumored to have had two or three working models, admitted to having a program, but not to having a nuke and abandoned their program after hard pressure from multiple nations.

Brazil also had a nuclear program. They are the only nation to have actually developed nukes, who then decided to give them up (With Ukraine and a few other nations having nukes from the old Soviet Empire but having given them up after the fall of the USSR). They decided the costs were to high in terms of reductions of freedoms.

Libertarians live in a shell where in their opinion that if we try their way we will see a glorious future. I disagree , for coming out of a drug high to find most of the world conquered and slavery or death being the options seems stupid to me.