Topic: Why English Is Confusing

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Either that or all Americans are retarded... You live on the ground floor, woman! GROUND FLOOR! X(

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"sod off" isn't it?

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And it's spelled aluminium! Damnit!

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nope, aluminum. comes from borax. which you don't have.

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The man who isolated it (that danish chap) named it aluminium!

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"Nomenclature history
The earliest citation given in the Oxford English Dictionary for any word used as a name for this element is alumium, which British chemist and inventor Humphry Davy employed in 1808 for the metal he was trying to isolate electrolytically from the mineral alumina. The citation is from the journal Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London: "Had I been so fortunate as to have obtained more certain evidences on this subject, and to have procured the metallic substances I was in search of, I should have proposed for them the names of silicium, alumium, zirconium, and glucium."[47][48]

Davy had settled on aluminum by the time he published his 1812 book Chemical Philosophy: "This substance appears to contain a peculiar metal, but as yet Aluminum has not been obtained in a perfectly free state, though alloys of it with other metalline substances have been procured sufficiently distinct to indicate the probable nature of alumina."[49] But the same year, an anonymous contributor to the Quarterly Review, a British political-literary journal, in a review of Davy's book, objected to aluminum and proposed the name aluminium, "for so we shall take the liberty of writing the word, in preference to aluminum, which has a less classical sound."[50]

The -ium suffix conformed to the precedent set in other newly discovered elements of the time: potassium, sodium, magnesium, calcium, and strontium (all of which Davy had isolated himself). Nevertheless, -um spellings for elements were not unknown at the time, as for example platinum, known to Europeans since the sixteenth century, molybdenum, discovered in 1778, and tantalum, discovered in 1802. The -um suffix is consistent with the universal spelling alumina for the oxide, as lanthana is the oxide of lanthanum, and magnesia, ceria, and thoria are the oxides of magnesium, cerium, and thorium respectively.

The spelling used throughout the 19th century by most U.S. chemists ended in -ium, but common usage is less clear.[51] The -um spelling is used in the Webster's Dictionary of 1828. In his advertising handbill for his new electrolytic method of producing the metal 1892, Charles Martin Hall used the -um spelling, despite his constant use of the -ium spelling in all the patents[44] he filed between 1886 and 1903.[52] It has consequently been suggested that the spelling reflects an easier to pronounce word with one fewer syllable, or that the spelling on the flier was a mistake. Hall's domination of production of the metal ensured that the spelling aluminum became the standard in North America; the Webster Unabridged Dictionary of 1913, though, continued to use the -ium version.

In 1926, the American Chemical Society officially decided to use aluminum in its publications; American dictionaries typically label the spelling aluminium as a British variant.

The name "aluminum" is derived from its status as a base of alum; "alum" in turn is a Latin word which literally means "bitter salt".[53]

Present-day spelling
Most countries use the spelling aluminium (with an i before -um). In the United States, this spelling is largely unknown, and the spelling aluminum predominates.[54][55] The Canadian Oxford Dictionary prefers aluminum, whereas the Australian Macquarie Dictionary prefers aluminium.

The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) adopted aluminium as the standard international name for the element in 1990, but three years later recognized aluminum as an acceptable variant. Hence their periodic table includes both.[56] IUPAC officially prefers the use of aluminium in its internal publications, although several IUPAC publications use the spelling aluminum.[57]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium


I propose we compromise on "Shakspeer"

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"The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) adopted aluminium as the standard international name for the element in 1990, but three years later recognized aluminum as an acceptable variant. Hence their periodic table includes both.[56] IUPAC officially prefers the use of aluminium in its internal publications, although several IUPAC publications use the spelling aluminum."

Aluminium > Aluminum

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but it's "aluminio" in Esperanto

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And Berylium is Berilio.. So it only makes the claim of aluminium being the right word better..

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http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/kvbenton/entry/why_english_is/

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but since esperanto is THE global language, aluminio > aluminium

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you should try purdue

you walk into some buildings and you're on the first floor, you walk into others and you're on the ground floor, and you walk into others and there is a stairway going up and a stairway going down, sometimes the stairway going down leads to the ground floor, sometimes to the basement floor, sometimes to the first floor

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=^O.o^= Why do the brits have to make a word, "classical".  Words like Zoolander gives it a super model feel to words.

=^o.o^= When I'm cute I can be cute.  And when I'm mean, I can be very very mean.  I'm a cat.  Expect me to be fickle.

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Better question: Why is there a cat in my yard?
/me reaches for 22 rifle

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you mean

"kial akrulino en mia jardo?
/mi iprenos 22 fusilo"

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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I'm keeping it at actual English.

This forum is stupid.

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any attempts to enshrine British English as "international standard" shall be met with esperanto!

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18 (edited by [TI] Mrblonde 23-Apr-2010 09:55:37)

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British English? I only know English and American.

Edit: Australian for "international language"!

This forum is stupid.

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cooee

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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there are more americans then british, majority rules

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Incorrect, age trumps majority.

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"Look lady I only speak two languages, english and bad english...!" ~ Corbin Dallas, The Fifth Element

It's funny, but I only speak and type those two languages also.

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23 (edited by Chris_Balsz 23-Apr-2010 19:57:24)

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just on the off chance that someday Americans might be so bored we learn more of your stuttering jabber than is needed to order fried beef sandwiches and Cokes, the CIA invented Klingon

Q'plaH!


jk

but once you get a BA then tuition to learn anything is quadrupled in this state sad

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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> Chris_Balsz wrote:

> cooee

eh-up! (^_^)/

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I know Americans only speak American, except for some... who speak spanish. I think you call 'm Latino's?

This forum is stupid.