1 (edited by unforgetabl3 05-Apr-2010 06:22:17)

Topic: Pop banking race

normally i go with rev for pop banking but i given the thought to try custom pop banking.. (altho i think rev's pop banking is sexy)

these are the 2 races.. please give a comment about which one should be better.. and if none of them are up to par let me know what a better one is..

i used to pax pop bank .. before revs and camaar came out.. but ever since revs.. i just always used them for pop banking



RACE 1:

No Picture    CantForget
    Population growth: 30%
Income: 50%
Research: 30%
Attack: -30%
Magic: -30%
   
Spells
Space Amazement
    Operations
Planetary Infrastructure
Specials
Tax Office




RACE 2:

No Picture    CantForg3t
    Population growth: 50%
Income: 50%
Research: 10%
Attack: -30%
Magic: -30%
   
Spells
Space Amazement
    Operations
Planetary Infrastructure
Specials
Tax Office



EDIT : Im going to add 2 more races.. tongue for more argument sake haha


RACE 3:

No Picture    CantF0rget
    Population growth: 50%
Income: 50%
Research: 20%
Attack: -30%
Magic: -30%
   
Spells
    Operations
Specials
Tax Office



RACE 4:

No Picture    CantF0rg3t
    Population growth: 40%
Income: 50%
Research: 30%
Attack: -30%
Magic: -30%
   
Spells
    Operations
Specials
Tax Office

Re: Pop banking race

only real difference is the research and pop...

so i guess it basically comes down to this " is it worth it to research more and not have to put as much money into science or is it worth it to have more pop and fund a little more into research

Re: Pop banking race

Popgrowth doesn't give you more pop, only faster pop growth.  So you don't 'really' need more than 10%.  50% is nice, and quick to get up and running, esp if you get opped - but most of the round, its not really needed.

I prefer to max out on science, because as a pop banker, you're going to have high networth and this makes it harder to get better research.  And as a pop banker, you only really start minting the money when you have high research in both eco and welfare - only then are you laughing at all the CF bankers smile

Read my opinion on a pop race here -> http://www.imperialconflict.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=486902#p486902

The only difference I add now to that post is that Revalons 'is' an option.  Not necessarily better, but it depends on your play style.   I prefer more research, but why Revalons is viable, I find, is because at end game when you have really high research, its not that much viable adding more and you can't go higher.  So in that case 10% more income helps.  Ofcourse the Revs would have had to put more gc into the research to be the same, but its like an extension to the income level.

I still prefer custom pop though.

Re: Pop banking race

Hmm, agreed with Torqez, another strategy RC related, i am going to try it out this round in AD, just for the start if it works... then it will be awesome

race: quantam
idea: TO/RC maybe 30%TO
goal: the science bonus > income bonus for a period of time

i will post here as soon as it works big_smile

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Re: Pop banking race

Will be interesting to hear since i did the same this round but it a bit wacky since i got attacked and also starved a lot.
Difference i made is pure pop from start wich is tricky but not as slow as many thinks since you start with 5k pop. The tricky part is to get food and iron to ob to 100% in HS and build lq.s in tick 18 (you max out in tick 26) and then double in each 11:th tick.

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Re: Pop banking race

Ive done many rounds with pop start right from start. However there is no doubt that was a lot better when start resoruces was not trippled like it is now, and when CFs were only making 6 pr..

You were out very early with pop this round nandro, and its always hard to tell what is the best strategy since some are implemented better while others had more fighting etc.

But you have to admit 3408 is sorta far ahead of you now, even their poppers that only started building LQs under a week ago

LORD HELP OREGON

Re: Pop banking race

"But you have to admit 3408 is sorta far ahead of you now, even their poppers that only started building LQs under a week ago"

Doesn't really apply because of the reasons you mentioned yourself:

"its always hard to tell what is the best strategy since some are implemented better while others had more fighting etc."


Nandro's fam sacrificed Eco to eliminate a threat in another fam by raiding them early.  That stunts their growth obviously.  Don't forget they were completely owning everyones fam in Eco before that and the rest of the gal was far behind.

So yea, there's just so many factors that affect stuff for best growth - especially activity.

Re: Pop banking race

But still torqez, there is a reason that pop right from the start is largely not being used anymore. Pop simply has a lower return early on. What i would lean more towards could be keeping a banker pretty low, stocking explorers etc and then jumping a lot later. But being a big popper from SOR doesnt pay off, im sry wink.

And Torqez, if 36 was so good with eco, that little thing they had with 27 wouldnt have made them drop to 60% of our infra. Its the last week we have been growing away from them, not the period of time where they were fighting 27.

Its hard to compare, too many factors, but the math simplifies it, and starting popper just isnt good.

LORD HELP OREGON

Re: Pop banking race

Oh, I never said starting pop was good.  I'd never do it.  Although I have done it in the past.

Re: Pop banking race

This round i had my poppers get pretty massive science from RCs before they swtiched, were talking about 60% con and eco. Made the swtich alot cheaper and also gave them a nice income boost early.

Before science CFs are better than pop, so i thought id use science.

When we had completed thoose two jumps, we were about 50% ahead the eco of 36 and 30% ahead the eco of 09. Its a pretty new way to do CF/pop switch, nothing revolutionary tho.

LORD HELP OREGON

Re: Pop banking race

but they lacked defence didn't they Noir and got pwned in the end. and I see Nandro's pop at 35m atm and your 2 under 1m ^^^^

lovely strategy.

Re: Pop banking race

here, come to my channel in irc



#best,race


I'll give you the info for the best pop race around

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1431 ftw

Re: Pop banking race

its ok to be jealous nightwish

ive had the #1 unrivalled eco in MW/cap for 4 consecutive rounds now. Its interesting and fun to argue, but you would think some of you noobs eventually started picking up what im teaching wink. Oh well, easier for me next time i play i guess

LORD HELP OREGON