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HPV and HSV are indeed much scarier, insofar as it's much more prevalent, than HIV/AIDS.

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And much easier to contract.

HIV should be mentioned so people can make rational calculations to reduce their risk, but the amount of advertising it gets is profit driven off people's fears. That's all the medical community is anyway.

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>>If I was some health director in charge of warning the public about risks and clearly lied about ["misstated"] the information I had to share, I'd deserved to be fired if not imprisoned. That shit is serious.<<

Does this sentiment extend to your commander in chief (or ex-C-i-C.) Should politicians that deliberatly lied to the public be criminally liable?

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Yes!!!

Therefore let's hang Obama!

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Uh oh... I know where this thread's going... X(

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Though flint responded to me after ignoring me for life... In any case I guess all former presidents of the US are now criminals...

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The Brits will probably indict everybody anyhow, from the Pope to Clinton

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Piff why stop at just leaders, why not execute every living being for lying at some stage...

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*gets a hooded mask and a sharp axe*

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lol

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so, do i hear flint saying he doesn't need a vaccin if a real pandemic shows up sometime?

this one was under the "better safe than sorry" category, and i think if it's about human lifes, that's one of the better categories to be in.

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How do we know how many people actually contracted H1N1 and died of it?  Remember that reported cases and deaths are estimated to be many times the number of actual reported cases and deaths.

Why?  Because there simply aren't enough hospitals and staff to do the treatments let alone the testing.   People who die from h1n1 actually die from complications of a weakened immune system caused by h1n1 virus.  Most doctors don't / or can't check whether the patient has / died of complications from h1n1 or seasonal flu.  Also, a lot of people react mildly to the virus, and don't get treatment, don't know they are passing it around, and later don't know they had even had it.

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I think H1N1 was never a major threat. The danger was always of two things:
1 - It would mutate to a more dangerous form
2 - It would combine with normal flu

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The bigger concern is h5n1 (bird flu) mutating to be transmissible from humans to humans.  Researchers have found that a mutation of just two fewer proteins could result in huma-human transmission.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/avianflu/news/aug1007mutant.html

To date there have been 486 cases in 15 countries.   287 or 59% of the cases have been fatal.

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I bet h1n1 was a mutation from h5n1, and this h5n1 could mutate again any time.

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I bet people will never notice that H1N1 was just The Flu.

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Why are people suggesting that getting an education and using one's intellect to not waste taxpayer money is somehow a gamble?

You had federal health officials misusing the word pandemic on national TV. It didn't take a genius to realize that it was a huge waste of resources. If you're too dumb to realize this, that's your problem.

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/me hopes BG is planning on replicating

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"> xeno syndicated wrote:

> The bigger concern is h5n1 (bird flu) mutating to be transmissible from humans to humans.  Researchers have found that a mutation of just two fewer proteins could result in huma-human transmission.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/avianflu/news/aug1007mutant.html

To date there have been 486 cases in 15 countries.   287 or 59% of the cases have been fatal."


The only way they could have found that out was by actually messing with the chromosone sequances, and causing the mutations in a lab.  Are you saying these jerk wads actually started messing with a pandemic virus and started mussing up it's original format?

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Sounds about right Key, government scientists have a long tradition of messing around with nasty little organisms to see if they can be turned into better weapons..

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"Researchers have found that a mutation of just two fewer proteins...."

They can't have known that unless they actually done it.  To unilaterally tell people that a slight shift would cause it to turn into a human to human transmittable virus is sensationalistic journalism at it's worst.  And scientific megalimania to start messing around with a germ to see what WOULD it look like in a human to human case.  That's just...wrong.  For one it brings up "The Stand" by Stephen King and human error.  And the "12 Monkeys". 

That crap isn't funny.  I can put up with lots of news articles and political discussion.  Rampant disease RNA/DNA lego building is NOT something I like to read about.

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It's not wrong, it's how medicine prepares for future potential outbreaks of newly evolved influenza strains.

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Some of those influenza strains came out of a lab, considering that they were supposed to have used primates in their studies, and some of those lab monkeys were never destroyed.  Case in point was in yugoslavia, where the lab monkeys were traded to travelling circus after being infected with test doses of influenza.  Yah wonder sometimes how swine flu actually really got around...

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