4 years of taxes with no benefits.

I thinking of starting a company called "The greenest green dual solar/wind LTD."

I expect the next stimulus could get me a billion dollars or so with that name.

Use of the word "reform" here is inaccurate and misleading.

Nobody with an education supports this legislation. Yes, I said it.

nice it autobanned [moo]

they'll probably just convict us of a felony (tax evasion), fine, sentence suspended

so we lose our vote and owe money and don't get to go to jail

but if they feel they have to amnesty 12 000 000 illegal aliens because they can't process them, how the hell are they gonna avoid amnesty to us?

Maybe you shouldn't buy insurance from thugs and provide evidence so that those who break their contracts and deny covered medical work go out of business and to prison? What you describe as the great failure of American healthcare is already illegal. This legislation doesn't change that. You're just making up a reason, and pretending it (being ficticious) is justification. Plenty of insurers provide real medical care. They do it better than any government in the world does.

Let's hope it passes? Government is even worse, not better. Nobody envies any European or Canadian medical options over those of the US.

Separation of state from religion does not stop the state from passing laws on ethical grounds. If you're comfortable with putting needles in children's heads during birth in order to inject poison and "abort" the pregnancy, that's cool. But I'm not going to vote in support of the practice. Also, you're disgusting.

Arnor is right. Repeal "You shall not murder" and the other 9 commandments from law!

"what does the fuss about abortion refunding have to do with separation of church and state?"

Most, if not all opinions about wether a foetus is a living being or not is inspired on religion.

"Most, if not all opinions about wether a foetus is a living being or not is inspired on religion."

no... not at all... a fetus fits every scientific attempt to create a criteria for life... and just about every religious opinion about whether the fetus is living or not is based off of science...

"I would consult biology.
Lets see, heart beat, consumes food, ejects fecal matter... seems it is a living being to me.
That is what you call a SLAM DUNK"

You see to be confusing a "living being" with "life". For that matter, it doesn't even need to have a cardiovascular system..
SLAM FAIL!
The consequence of this is immense in this matter. In my opinion the embryo's rights don't outweigh the mother's rights. It's little or no different of an animal embryo till after a number of weeks, is it a human being then? No, only when you want it to be one.

WFS,

A fetus is a human being. It has a human genotype that is developing according to those instructions. Any other definition of human is going to be arbitrary.

That said, it doesn't matter. It isn't necessarily murder to terminate their lives. Murder is always something in the eyes of the state. And there are practical reasons to control population growth in risky populations, like to mothers who can't afford having children.

And quit with this rights stuff. The only thing any one has ever had is privileges granted to them by the state.

I also do not see a problem with universal health care. Some European countries have very efficient systems, and the complaints about long lines in the US etc are pure propaganda. However, while the US is in need of health care reform, this bill is just not satisfactory for me. It still satisfies the greedy insurance and pharmaceutical companies who deserve to be broken up.

219 vs 212 for health care