Topic: Anybody here in Singapore?

Seems like when I have to abandon the USA to the Reds, that Singapore would be an excellent haven for an anal retentive Catholic protofascist.  Am I right? 

Is it true you really have to have a job lined up to move there?

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I was thinking more in line with India or Israel... might get shot at a lot in either nation, but at least I would know I was in a place where I would be allowed to make as much money as I wanted to...

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true patriots.... wanting to abandon the country where they were born and raised....

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>>I was thinking more in line with India or Israel... might get shot at a lot in either nation, but at least I would know I was in a place where I would be allowed to make as much money as I wanted to...<<

Look into Singapore; they got a 10% sales tax called GST but only tax you on income earned in Singapore...if you got a good enough job there you can be a Permanent Resident forever...bad news is foriegners on a visa who lose their job got FOURTEEN DAYS to get another one, or get caned and deported

>>true patriots.... wanting to abandon the country where they were born and raised....<<

Awwww....just picture it...our two wallets winging into a Pacific sunset as ukeleles play "Aloha oe"

"Aloha oe
Farewell to thee.."

I didn't leave America, Amerika left me tongue

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Caned and deported?

I rather be shot, a dozen times, than caned once tongue

10% is a really nice rate, but I rather just stay away from a chance at a caning... tongue

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awwww...

India actually has Commies running as Commies and they own one province at least

and Israel is going to the yahoos, or so I hear...plus you can't get a good pulled pork sandwich on a saturday for the moon

but I thought somebody on IC actually lived on Singapore, can't remember who

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singapore has too many restrictions. they might soon pass a law banning overweightness.

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Israel has pork sandwiches?  Are they kosher?

When I think of Singapore I think of Thailand.  Havn't a clue why....

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> they got a 10% sales tax called GST but only
> tax you on income earned in Singapore

That doesn't sound right...

> true patriots.... wanting to abandon the country
> where they were born and raised....

The countries they choose are rather ironic, too, i would say...

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dunno out sandwiches,they do have bacon smile

till the end of time..

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Taxes
Singapore has a well-regulated tax system, and personal income tax rates are generally lower than in other developed countries. The Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore (IRAS) assesses, collects and enforces various taxes, duties and levies. Note: Just to prove the point (about the low tax rates), check out the ExpatSingapore survey right here, providing a comparison between Singapore and some other developed nations:


Who are exempted and who aren’t
Singapore uses a territorial basis of taxation. Tax is imposed on income derived from or accrued in Singapore. The source of income is determined mainly by the location at which the services are rendered.

Residents are taxed on income derived from or accrued in Singapore, and on income derived from outside Singapore and received in Singapore.
Non-residents are taxed only on income derived from or accrued in Singapore. They do not have to pay taxes on foreign income received in Singapore. Also, they are exempted from income tax if they work in Singapore for 60 days or less in a calendar year.

Tax rates for non-resident individuals
Residents are taxed at graduated rates ranging from 2 per cent to 28 per cent, after the appropriate reliefs have been deducted.
Non-residents are taxed at either a flat rate of 15 per cent on employment income, without personal reliefs, or the residents' graduated rate, whichever is higher. In addition, non-residents are taxed a flat rate of 27 per cent on non-employment income derived from Singapore.
Singapore has concluded tax relief agreements with some 34 countries to avoid double taxation. The list includes:


Australia
Bangladesh
Belgium
Canada
People's Republic of China
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
India
Indonesia
Israel
Italy
Japan
Republic of Korea
Luxembourg
Malaysia
Mauritius
Mexico
The Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Pakistan
Papua New Guinea
The Philippines
Poland
Sri Lanka
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan
Thailand
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
Vietnam


Paying your taxes/tax preparation
Tax returns are based on the calendar year and must usually be filed by 15 April. All tax must be paid within one month of the notice of assessment, which usually comes in the later part of the year. You can arrange to pay your taxes in installments.

Goods and Services Tax (GST)

There is a 3 per cent Goods and Services Tax (GST) on domestic consumption. The GST is levied on the sale of goods and services in Singapore by GST-registered traders, and on goods imported into Singapore. The export of goods and international services is not subject to GST.
The GST covers almost all goods and services, except for the rental and sale of residential land and buildings in Singapore, and the provision of certain financial services. Businesses whose turnover exceeds S$1 million are required to register for GST.

GST alert: Some retailers have tried to profit from GST collection by displaying GST and non-GST prices in different font sizes in their advertisements. Note that under the Goods and Services Tax (GST) Act and its regulations, traders are required to reflect the GST in their advertised, displayed, published or quoted prices. Thus, GST-registered traders should indicate only one price (the GST price)--the idea being that the price shown is the price that consumers will pay. Non-GST-registered traders should not be collecting GST and should therefore indicate only non-GST prices.


Central Provident Fund (CPF)
The CPF is a social security savings scheme in which employees (under 55 years) and their employers contribute a total of 30 per cent of the salary, with the employer contributing 10 per cent. Besides providing a safety net for old age, the fund can also be used to buy homes, to pay for health care expenses, and to invest in stocks and shares.

Previously, expatriates and their employers were required to make CPF contributions, unless a waiver was granted by the CPF Board. Waivers were generally granted to expatriate employees who were not Singapore permanent residents or citizens. However, some expatriates chose to make CPF contributions because the contributions were tax-free and could later be withdrawn from the fund, also tax-free, when the expatriate left Singapore.

The rules have since changed with effect 1 August 1995. Expatriates and their employers are now not required to make CPF contributions. However, this also means that expatriates lose a potential tax shelter.

Transitional provisions cater for expatriates who were already employed in Singapore on or before 1 August 1995, or who had submitted applications for employment passes before that date. Expatriates who are already making tax-free CPF contributions may continue to do so until 31 December 1998 or the date their employment pass/work permit expires, whichever is earlier. After 31 December 1998, the new rules apply.

If an expatriate later becomes a permanent resident, he and his employer will be required to make CPF contributions from that time.

How to get around CPF

Although CPF contributions are no longer compulsory for expatriates, they and their employers may still make contributions, but with less favourable tax outcomes. If the terms of the employment contract mandate CPF contributions, your contributions continue to be tax-deductible. Your employer's contributions also remain tax-deductible, but become taxable income for you. If no contractual obligation is stated, neither you nor your employer are allowed tax deductions for your respective contributions.

http://www.expatsingapore.com/content/view/1159

>>The countries they choose are rather ironic, too, i would say...<<

South Africa and Australia are too liberal, New Zealand is too hippie...what's left? I'd go to Russia but they already have too many anal-retentive right-wing yahoos and the newcomer to the herd is always the first target of culling

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Look into China  - not communist at all if you've got money.

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The Chinese economy is going to collapse.

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dude I know a guy who worked in China for a US corp and he got a tax bill from the Chinese that took 50% of his gross wages

sooner or later those guys will AGAIN nationalize everything

only they'll do it smart like cuba, and just nationalize American stuff and sell it to Europeans

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Russia also has a 13% flat tax.

The inmates are running the asylum

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their death tax is murder

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

17 (edited by tavius 20-Mar-2010 05:17:46)

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Yeah but Russia has crappy infrastructure, extreme xenophobia and law and order is sketchy.

You need to have a job offer in order to get an work visa. You could I guess try for a social visa pass and then spend your time in Singapore to get a job offer which would then lead to an employment visa. Not 100% sure. If you can it's probably preferable to work for a U.S based multinational which could post you to Singapore.

Singapore is paradise for most western expats tbh, and its laws and restrictions might even suit an old-school, law n' order conservative like yourself (I'm assuming here). It's completely secular (Lee Kuan Yew is presumed to be an atheist) and therefore doesn't have funny religious laws like Dubai or much of the ME. In fact all religious groups are banned from actively proselytising. A well-known local Christian leader who recently made public suggestions that Buddhism and Taoism were satanic got made an appointment with Internal Security after which he retracted. This would apply vice versa if it happened also.

The mother tongue there is English, in fact there are increasingly many Chinese Singaporeans who aren't even that fluent in Mandarin. Population is highly educated, Uni of Chicago, INSEAD, Duke Uni, Uni of London, top Aussie unis, local unis (performed quite well in global rankings) have campuses or affiliations there.

Taxes are low like you've pointed out. However, the downside is land prices are very expensive there due to the high population density and a strong economy therefore most people -have- to live in government housing. Govt housing isn't a slum or cheap btw it's like 400-500k for a 4 bedroom apartment (not 100% up to date). 

But yeah if you're actually serious then lol at bringing your query to a game forum, there are plenty of singapore expat forums like http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/.

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Chris... the Russian Mafia taxes 90% also! tongue


I think India has some pretty low tax rates, honestly. The problem is one of racism of course. Christians get the low stick out there, but a marriage to a hot Indian lady is almost guaranteed also... tongue

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I notice a total absence of "Chris, Flint--come to my country!" posts

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Come to the south of the Netherlands or Utrecht province..

Je maintiendrai

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Why what's out there?...waaaaait aren't you the guys who have a "lynch Catholics" day??

nice try tongue

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Switzerland is primarily Catholic and protestant, is wealthy, is one of the most economically free countries in europe, has a direct democracy, where the citizens can and have voted down laws their legislature have passed, plus its a federation with strong regional rights which means if you dont like it in one of the regions, the laws will probably be drastically different in other ones.... only down side for you is english isnt a national language, i think its French, German, Italian, and Romansh.

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we have that in the netherlands? i never heard of it but it sounds awesome. lynch the pedophiles that call themselve catholic

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> Chris_Balsz wrote:

> Why what's out there?...waaaaait aren't you the guys who have a "lynch Catholics" day??

nice try tongue



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Lets see, Netherlands... high taxes, unstable neighbors, bad local government, bad continental government, to close of proximity to England and their scary teeth, and the French are nearby also... with their holier than thou attitudes...

I rather go to Switzerland, where I could own an Uzi and walk around with it and not attract attention... plus their banking policy is pretty decent.

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