Topic: Western studies

It is about time to purge American culture and education from the idiots who actively subvert our nation by promoting the values of economic and social justice and equality of outcome. While I am not very fond of religion, Flint wanted Creationism taught in schools, and others commented that Greek mythology should consequently be taught as well. This gave me an idea thinking about it. We should teach Western studies in schools, and Christianity can be considered a tradition of Western civilization in schools. We can trace how it contributed to the West, and then end with how it leads to the triumph of reason. The classes in grade school (just like English and Math) would read the Iliad, Odyssey, the speeches by Pericles, History of the Peloponnesian War, and works by Augustine, Anselm and Thomas Aquinas etc. The history of Imperialism will also take a tone of pride, "We won. We conquered" rather than one of guilt and shame.

I think Western studies is a perfect idea. It will be an opportunity to teach our children the kind of values that make a nation powerful and have their roots in Western culture, like power, personal excellence and reason. Preachers of equality, relativists and multiculturalists who pollute our culture need to be squelched.

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3 (edited by Acolyte 18-Mar-2010 22:20:39)

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It is about time to purge American culture and education from the idiots who actively subvert our nation by promoting the values of socialism and liberate the education system from government influence. /That/ is a message I would approve. wink

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While we're at it, why don't we just purge americans too.

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That's racist.

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6 (edited by Key 19-Mar-2010 00:27:33)

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Geeze, well I thought since we were purging american culture *cough Book Burning*, that we might as well take it to the next step right?

I mean first came the guy with an idea about taking care of the country and moving forward.  Then came the book burning.  And then came the purges.

Let's just skip 1 and 2, and just do the actual purges and save a bunch of time right?

You can't get rid of some culture and leave the rest.  You have to take it all as it is.  All of history, all of culture.  The good and the bad.  Even the lazy cultural identity of those that really don't know much about their own history.  Or only choose to excise the history we'd rather not speak of.  You either take it all, or you get rid of it all.  Because it's all interconnected.  Because one event lead to another, which lead us to where we are today.  I mean, when that guy with the harry knuckles made the wheel, did he really think how much impact that would have had several thousand years later.  Was he heralded as a genius, or as a crazy maniac?  Was it taboo to move forward in culture?  Was it widely accepted?

Culture, historic culture.  You can not deny any of it.

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A little history note.

The first book published by the United States, immediately after the revolutionary war... was a Bible.


And inside the Bible you can read something to the lines of "For use in schools for the education of children"


As for your comments, though aimed at from the wrong standpoint, and shot for the wrong reasons, I think it's the right target for different reasons tongue

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As inheritors of the English tradition, Gaelic mythology and Nordic mythology should be added to the pot too.

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9 (edited by tavius 20-Mar-2010 06:19:59)

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Why only include Roman/Greek stuff in your Western classical studies? What about Celtic or Welsh teachings and traditions, Germanic, Hispanic...etc.

It's funny how Western culture likes to pretend it only has ancient connections with the Greco-Romans. Look at Greece's geographical location (it's on the Mediterranean and closer to the Middle East than it is to Western Europe and just south of many Eastern European countries which were tbh considered less than "European" until recent times) and then say it's as Western as they come.

Even Christianity originated not in Europe but from the Middle East lol.

10 (edited by Justinian I 20-Mar-2010 06:55:05)

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> tavius wrote:

> Why only include Roman/Greek stuff in your Western classical studies? What about Celtic or Welsh teachings and traditions, Germanic, Hispanic...etc.

It's funny how Western culture likes to pretend it only has ancient connections with the Greco-Romans. Look at Greece's geographical location (it's on the Mediterranean and closer to the Middle East than it is to Western Europe and just south of many Eastern European countries which were tbh considered less than "European" until recent times) and then say it's as Western as they come.

Even Christianity originated not in Europe but from the Middle East lol.>

What's your point with Greece being in Eastern Europe and by the Mediterranean and next to Turkey? Western culture owes much to Greece, who effectively laid down the ground work for it. Those people and their subsequent successors culturally conquered most of Europe. Western has nothing to do with race or geography. Likewise, Celts and Germanic religions aren't Western, rather they were conquered by Western culture.

And with Christianity you are still thinking geography.

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The problem with history is so there's so blasted much of it.

I like the college model where they get insanely specific, like "Age of Jackson" specific.

Since the celtic and Greek histories are so seperate, just make seperate classes for them.  "Ancient western European history" and "ancient eastern European history"

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