Re: 3232 vs 3227, 3225, 3237
Tryme, nice one. Trying to make us the bad guys here?
We are just showing to NAP breakers and ppl who like to use dirty tricks how that can turn against them. Isn
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Tryme, nice one. Trying to make us the bad guys here?
We are just showing to NAP breakers and ppl who like to use dirty tricks how that can turn against them. Isn
I'm gonna explain 1 more time. We were given the option to fight 27 by a [moo] up clause in the nap... We opted to fight, then 25 BREAKS the nap, only family to break a nap this round is 3225, so cut the bullshit about punishing napbreakers.. Idiots.
Even I know when to call it a day, yes i hit a fam but never for more than 20% off their planets, untill now.
> psyclOnE wrote:
> Fella's its a game, they think we broke NAP, we think they broke NAP, let's just all get over it. Shit happens, we got 2 v 1'd, nothing we can do there, everyone has memory's, they've all been where we are, they all know what it's like, it's a cycle, next round it'll be a different fam, who cares, its all part of the game.
never say it will be a diff fam next round, because i tought so as well.. But after our nice friend polder (allies) raping the sould out of us and now this this round... ![]()
@Tryme
you know why you only take 20% of their planets? because you just can't take more, even when other fam didnt jumps their fleet ( => 3227
).
+ You told me : 'you have 2/3 hours' so that means you leave choice to us. Srr Tryme again: YOU ARE WRONG. Because now you said: 'when you want to nap, 2 fams need to agree.' And i did told you in time, so don't start whining bout that either
Greetings, your beloved friend (s) 27
@Tryme :
Lol, how you get that screwed? Are you repeating that mantra to yourself until you believe it to be the truth and the only truth?
Or are you hoping that ppl will read only your lies and think you
Smack one you had 3 hours to make me an offer, 1 fam can't just decide to make a nap... IT takes 2 signatures ours and 27 was missing. Also anybody in 3227 should just shut the f up, I gave you 3 hours of notice before war was gonna start, without your allies you would still have been pwned to the ground. In just 15 ticks i managed to make 3 of your players delete... So don't take any credits you don't deserve.
Also speaking about repeating mantra's, you seem to want to convince yourself you are doing this in case of honor and such, whilst it is obviously you are only doing this to win size. Also our nap couldn't be voided only broken, which is exactly what happened, so cut the crap.
> Tryme wrote:
> I don't hold grudges this round, I have a memory tho, a fairly good one. The guys in 3225 are gonna get utterly smashed next round.
Don't count on any mercy... Taking 33% of a fams planets because you dislike the actions of 1 player is very redundant.. You have to know when to call it a day, what 3225 is doing now is very low. And i hope pw remembers this just as i do.
I also have to scratch 3237 from the list.. It's just 3225 that is retarded.
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There's alot of good/decent players in 25 tryme, goodluck with that. Probably just get yourself in over your head again buddy ![]()
> Whineme wrote:
> Smack one you had 3 hours to make me an offer, 1 fam can't just decide to make a nap... IT takes 2 signatures ours and 27 was missing. Also anybody in 3227 should just shut the f up, I gave you 3 hours of notice before war was gonna start, without your allies you would still have been pwned to the ground. In just 15 ticks i managed to make 3 of your players delete... So don't take any credits you don't deserve.
without allies they probabely would have.... but that's where allies are for ![]()
I also like how 29 stayed out of the war entirely... common this game is a war game. 29 imo you lose this round no matter what size you end up with.. avoiding all conflicts is simply pussy.
First you guys refuse a 48 hour NAP with us and insist on a PNAP, then you get 25/27 to PNAP you? What was your plan exactly? To just farm all the lower families?? i guess that speaks for itself
> Wouterlicious wrote:
> HAHAHAHAHA U MAKE ME LAUGH!!!!
Remember previous round?? We got farmed by u and your fam for ages!!! U took all our planets and left nothing! Excuse was that we were in NW range. And u kept on farming and now u and your fam are in the same position, with difference u pulled one of your dishonourable tricks again, and u are whining???? U called me one and said i should shut up!!!
U can do the same now HAHAHA serious u are pathetic...
Rolling.. it was 26 who farmed us last round and the attacker was TYMO not Tryme.
Tryme, you gave them 3 hours, but when they answered within that time limit, you refused to give PNAP. We made the PNAP only if 27 has a choice. They didn
All messages in order of when they were sent.
[22:43] <@away> nap 25-29 is settle
[22:43] <@away> nap 25-32 is settled
[22:43] <@away> nap 29-27 is settled
[22:44] <@away> need to decide if 27-32 is on or not
(Above says its upto to 27/32 to decide if they want to War, all other NAPS signed.)
[22:48] <@away> fi 29-27 is not signed then all nap would be voided
(Above says the exact opposite.)
[23:08] <@away> 29 is pnaped with 27 and 25
[23:08] <@away> 25 is pnaped with 32
[23:08] <@away> 27 and 32 are going to finish the nap now or go to war in a few ticks
(Then the opposite once again)
[23:57] <@tja> yes?
[23:59] <SCHMACK> nap is ok?
[23:59] <Brown> we fight
(Tryme decides to War)
[00:15] <Zan|poker> is this yet again one of those moments where someone uses technicalities to get dishonorable war?
(Well we've changed our mind 3 times on the terms, technicality, yes, broken nap?)
[00:27] <Zan|poker> and it was agreed that you give one to 27 if they so decide, they decided so and that sealed the NAP
(well thats not what it says above now is it?)
00:32] <Brown> it is our decision
[00:32] <Zan|poker> no
[00:33] <Brown> 'our'
[00:33] <Zan|poker> no
[00:33] <Brown> and theirs
[00:33] <Zan|poker> no
[00:33] <Brown> yes
[00:33] <Zan|poker> no
[00:33] <Zan|poker> no
[00:33] <Zan|poker> no
(so who's decisiion was it?, i've read the entire convo, tryme said he'd give them 3 hours to decide, then he didnt give them the 3 hours, in the meantime, you agreed to the NAP, is it Tryme's fault that things changed in that 3 hours and he decided he'd be better of going to war given the change in circumstance's probably, but he didn't break any nap)
So overall, was Tryme sneaky and exploitative, YES!, but did he do anything wrong, morally, maybe yes, but actually illegally wrong? No, we never had a NAP, we only had a NAP with 25, not 27.
25 agreed to the NAP before the NAP with 27 was agreed to, I know you said above that if we don't nap 27 then all NAP's are void but that hasn't stopped you taking 150 planets off our allies now has it as compensation so clearly some of the NAP's are still in place and not voided, you cant void one and not void another.
End of Story.
Dirty, yes.
Illegal, No.
The only illegal action was 25's NAP break on us.
We are not going to take leadership from Tryme and mark him rogue because of another families ignorance and gullibility.
tbh ill not even waste my time posting the chat and explaining what happened. psy distorced showing only what is needed to prove that he is correct and there are missing parts on this chat. i dont care. ill keep hitting until pmode is on or nw difference or change leadership and tryme and hj quit the fam.
People know what they get when they deal with Tryme, you gotta make sure you dot all your I's and cross all your T's.
They shouldn't have signed a NAP until there allies had agreed, simple as that.
> RedLink wrote:
> tbh ill not even waste my time posting the chat and explaining what happened. psy distorced showing only what is needed to prove that he is correct and there are missing parts on this chat. i dont care. ill keep hitting until pmode is on or nw difference or change leadership and tryme and hj quit the fam.
I put in what was relevant, including the part where you said that it was void if we didn't sign with 27 also, that really backs up my case.
The fact is the NAP wasn't void, you didn't break on our allies, you gladly took there 150 planets, so therefor the NAP is not void, which means you broke a legitimate NAP that we had.
If there 150 planets are still negotiated then so is our NAP with 25, you can't have it both ways.
[21:32] <@away> we cant let 27 alone
[21:32] <ACDC> we won't let 27 fight 32 alone
[21:32] <Zanharim> not going to happen
[21:41] <Zanharim> so, we must either fight as an alliance or PNAP as an aliiance
In between here we decided that 27 can have a choice if they want to PNAP or fight 32, because they were not present in convo. At some point Tryme told he will PNAP, but only if he doesn
I already said he gave them 3 hours, I put that in there, I also said he changed his mind before that 3 hours.
"Happyjedi was happy about breaking a pnap and admitted that your fam broke the pnap. With that being said, anyone voting tryme as leader is being punished as well because doing so makes them just as dishonorable"
suporting Tryme's decision which was not a nap break... serenity, you dont belong in this discussion because it has nothing to do with you
RedLink, its your stupid fault for assuming we would want to NAP your weak ally... what kind of noob leaves before negotiations are even finished? you are that kind of noob
@29 yous are pussies
@25... psyclOnE is saying if the alliance nap was voided, why do you still have nap with 29? voiding half a nap? or just breaking whatever half of the nap suits you?
@CJIB "thats what allies are for bla bla"
judging by how shit 3227 performed, if our amazing ally didnt pay 150 planets for a nap, it would basically be 2v1 in our favour in the original war... but no, our super cool ally chickened out of an easy war and even let 25 break a pnap on us... but of course you would only see your side of it, you are in 25 after all ![]()
wait are serenity and tryme plahying together lol?
chat negotiations often end up like this, too many ppol talking at same time, chat convos cannot never represent an official nap, you all should show waht you have signed in ingame msgs cause nap not written and signed = don't exists.
All I see here is Redlink and Zan trusting ppol in a chat convo they shouldn't trust. I know several players whose I can trust in a chat and many others I can not, so I often try to close negotiations with a well written and clear NAP ingame msg with all the concrete clauses in it, so there cannot be loopholes (I learned 2 rounds ago when I trusted Templare and he miserably broke nap saying it was voided).
So first of all, this is 3225 fault, for trusting Tryme and for doing 'alliance' naps.
Naps must be individuals between 2 fams, written and signed by leaders or/and VLs and signed at relations page. When you dont have all these things done, consider you dont have the nap.
summarry:
Flashy -> A shame your retreat at last time paying 150 planets and leaving your ally in a strange position, when it was suposed to be the mother of all wars and they were prepared to fight and die.
Redlink -> Trusting people you dont have to and agreeing on 'alliance' naps is your fault, you are experienced enough to know it always end up in conflict. You and Zan state that is 27 option to war or nap, but where is it signed?? can you show a document signed by Tryme saying he agrees??
Tryme -> You are a snake, it was suposed your alliance was the loser before war started, you waited to Redlink signed nap at relations and then decided to attack their ally. Low.
SmackOne -> You are lame, lots of shares with 32 and you dont prepare to war, expecting what exactly??
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