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And now we get vultured allready lol that makes it even more hilarious hahahaa

True LEGEND

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Me thinks Noir is secretly in love with Torqez lol, everything he says has to do with torqez i bet he even dreams about Torqez, maybe he wants torqez job as a mod, torqez this torqez that torqez,torqez torqez, maybe Noir is finally coming out of the closet!

What do you say Noir, come on and confess to us all, can you make any comments without using torqez'a name lol.

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A warlord is a person with power who has both military and civil[1] control over a subnational area due to armed forces loyal to the warlord and not to a central authority.  And has the means and authority to engage in war

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good to see you admitting you are wrong and resorting to that pitbull smile

LORD HELP OREGON

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Pitbull can you just stop open your mouth please, all things you say are such useless as you are.

Now act like reasonable person, and stop just replying nonsense words...

"Te he dicho que no mires atras, porque el cielo no es tuyo, y hay que empezar despacio, a deshacer el mundo..." - Heroes del Silencio

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Horray he made a comment with using you know who's name lol. good for you. smile

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A warlord is a person with power who has both military and civil[1] control over a subnational area due to armed forces loyal to the warlord and not to a central authority.  And has the means and authority to engage in war

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Pitbull ... your such an arrogant piece of shit. i so wish you lived close to me. Id love to teach you some respect. But oh well. Gonna have to teach you in here tongue

a NAP break is a NAP break. Period. You can sugarcoat it all you want and try to spin it all day long. Your missin the point. Torqez once told me a while back that if anyone in his family broke a NAP he would delete. I dont see that happening, do you?

Torqez, along with the rest of you assholes, smelled a victory. So you went for it. Its been plagueing this game for a long time now. Dont matter how you win. Just so long as you win.

Mods are supposed to set an example of how to play. They arent supposed to be chasing away players by shady acts. So if Torqez truly was a man that had the courage to stick to his convictions he would delete.

If that doesnt happen, then our point has been proven.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!!

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no nap was broke it was past 48 hours

Venom

The real one not the one posing as 2.0.

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"TO CANCEL THIS NAP A MESSAGE MUST BE SENT TO BOTH LEADERS AND 2 VICE LEADERS IN EACH FAM and no attacks or ops can take place till the 48 hrs is over"

Tobi

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Tobi, still a nap break from your fam...

"Te he dicho que no mires atras, porque el cielo no es tuyo, y hay que empezar despacio, a deshacer el mundo..." - Heroes del Silencio

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i got a message and pitt it was cancelled

Venom

The real one not the one posing as 2.0.

261 (edited by Matrix 09-Mar-2010 23:50:56)

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@Tico

so what Noir sent was no nap cancelatione then?
or are you talking about your fams breake of the agreement?
(btw funny how Noir stated several times in this forum that he agreed to war on 15th
he must have a very bad memory)

Tobi

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TY cs dont bother to care for us though its not like theres any spirit to do anything at the moment...

True LEGEND

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Personally from what I've read from the signed nap, the cancellation could be justified.  Mostly because of the poor wording of the terms, however the Nap break by 57/52 cannot be justified.  It ultimately comes down to interpreting the terms of the nap.

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It wasn't a nap break.

We attacked after 48 hours from the cancellation message.

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its beautiful to see a mod stoop to that level lol, not been seen since KB used his modpowers to delete PP i guess

LORD HELP OREGON

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Pitbull and Venom, there is 0 (zero) justification to what you did. None whatsoever.

The terms of the NAP the leaders signed allowed 49 to cancel the NAP the way they did. It was not the spirit of the previous agreement, it was to get back at something they thought they had been wronged in the past, whatever.

Were they doing the right thing? Probably not. But they could do it, because the terms entitled them to.

What you did, however, as no justification. None at all. You flat out broke a NAP, and changed your family name to mock the peopl you broke the NAP on.

Your behaviour is insulting and demeaning towards players who spent alot of time playing this crappy game who not many seem to care about anymore. They're not angels, no way, but they did not attack you or caused you harm in any other way than whatever your minds interpreted it to be.

At a time when everyone is worried about foul play and players leaving, you CANNOT DO THIS, no matter what excuse you think will serve you best.

Do you want this game to go completely down the shitter? I'd rather it didn't, but I think you simply don't give a shit. At the end of the day you'll be laughing while you ruin something else, and IC will be dead.

Good job folks.

267 (edited by AdriusAvangion 10-Mar-2010 01:24:32)

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if this were true why is Noir, Mizzle and others making a big deal out of this? Ive never known any of them to lie about such things.

You jumped the gun early. Why the hell cant you just admit it? Your so damn stubborn. Genesis, one of your best friends, is callin you out. Yet you still deny any wrong doing?

I used to love this game. I was very passionate about keeping it alive and keeping it fresh. It doesnt matter race changes you make or rules changes you impliment. Not when mods themselves are playing dirty. Its messed up!!

I love this community and i have many dear friends that ive grown fond of over the years. Torqez your one of them. It saddens me that you fell into the crowd of NAP breakers and jerks that will do or say anything to win.

Im not callin out Torqez and 57 just for the simple delight of calling out NAP breakers. Although im retired i still care about this community and this game. I dont want to see it die. Regardless of who is right or wrong its KILLING THE COMMUNITY!!

Im pissed off cuz i care!! Doesnt anyone see that?

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!!

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Wrong Genesis.

"The terms of the NAP the leaders signed allowed 49 to cancel the NAP the way they did. It was not the spirit of the previous agreement, it was to get back at something they thought they had been wronged in the past, whatever."

When you use that logic, then anything is possible.  When they use any loophole necessary to get out of a predetremined war (one which Noir cleraly wanted earlier, cos he was "bored") then it opens up a big can of worms and it just gets ridiculously stupid.  For example, I could say that when we attacked we cancelled the nap.  No where does it say that I have to give 48 hours of notice.  Show me where it does?  You can't - cos it does not.  If you go on to talk about it being "implied" then yes...thats what was implied by setting the date for March 15th 22.00 GMT.

The crux of it is that war was set, and everythign was building up to be a good war for that date.  Noir jumped the gun and tried some tactics to get out of what was predetermined a while back.  It backfired majorly and he got what he deserved.

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Guys, enough of this 49 crap.

Id like to adress a more important issue: 3156

they didnt help Noir, and deserves punishment, they knew they were gona lose though but what the hell? IMO: Not helping allie is worse then nap breaking.

Can I attack them even though my fam made a nap?
Like going rogue or something?

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"For example, I could say that when we attacked we cancelled the nap.  No where does it say that I have to give 48 hours of notice.  Show me where it does?"

I would have to read the original 48h NAP and terms that composed it. The only thing I was able to read so far was the agreement you made replacing the original NAP, and that states it is a 48h NAP.

It is common sense that a 48h NAP can be cancelled. It is normal and everyday IC'ing, unless this has somehow changed and I wasn't informed.

The terms say it is a 48h NAP with an auto expiration date. This means it can be cancelled like any other 48h NAP, except it ends at a set date.

This wasn't what you meant? I won't dispute that. Were they morally right pushing back the date? No, they weren't. But they could, as per terms agreed and signed by you.

You screwed up buddy. It happens to everyone, I know it's happened to me before. You say the war was set; sure, to you it was. To them it wasn't, and they were entitled to that, as much as it may displease you.

Now, if you want to solve matters like IC death and Scorp usually do, that's up to you. I didn't think you would, but it happens ot everyone and you' are as well entitled to your slip up every now and then, just like everyone else.

WHat you're not entitled to is to mock people on top of things though. That leaves you no credibility whatsoever Torq, and that sucks for you and everyone else in the game.

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Wrong again Gen.  Again you presume to know the facts without knowing the full story.  Go read my other thread.

"It is common sense that a 48h NAP can be cancelled. It is normal and everyday IC'ing, unless this has somehow changed and I wasn't informed.

The terms say it is a 48h NAP with an auto expiration date. This means it can be cancelled like any other 48h NAP, except it ends at a set date."

It never stipulates that the agreement was cancellable.  Noir was, by his own admission, abusing a loophole.  So when you start doing things like that, you desrve to have the same treatment.

It was under the understanding from all parties involved that War would be on March 15th.  By pulling things over and claiming other things, you can't alter that fact.  This has been proven by Noir knowing war was set on march 15th.  Go through the logs I've posted.  Or even messages such as:

Week 39, 18
im extreemly bored
Signed, Jenny of French Black (3149)

Week 39, 18
wanna war now?
we can set a limit no attackers over 9 mill or so tongue
Signed, Jenny of French Black (3149)



Like I said, the truth of the matter is Noir was trying to pull one over us, and it backfired majorly on him.  He deserved what he got and I'm really done talking about this.

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"Week 13, 20
Due to several core breaches and unresponsiveness from 3157 leader i would like to inform you that we are hereby cancelling our nap agreement. Even tho we have a 48h nap, in the name of fairness i will let you know this early, so make the war more fair.


Good luck to you and your family, and may we show the galaxy that fun wars can be fought despite all the garbage that has happened in this and the previous round.

If your alliance wish this war to be waged only between 3149 and 3157 that is ok with us, but notice must be given before 21.00 GMT March 8th.

Live long and prosper

Signed, Jenny of French Black (3149)"


thats what we got from 49
why should we be bound to something Noir post in forum?
he cancelt the nap.. nap says after 48 ticks its over.. why should i wait 96 ticks?
why can 49 extent it to a 96 hour nap?
means they also could shorten it to a 24 hour nap?
or isn't that above a cancelatione?
but where is the real cancelatione then? (maybe i missed something)

Tobi

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Burn

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