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what is the correct way to do the "TO Start"?

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Just build your CF's and TO's in the correct ratio when you start. But always make calculations to see if you can build enough TO's after you build your CF's. You should have some scrap left so you can send that to your attacker.

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

78 (edited by })0CT3R W}{{}!!! 26-Apr-2008 17:44:08)

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so bankers do 70/30 build of CF/TO. even non TO peeps build the TO at start by changing race to one with TO if we dont have TO in our race. then change back after building 7 TO. raise farms 1 tick before TO complete construction. then wait one day after TO come in before building is the best way for Sor TO Start?

during the 1 day wait while collecting cash the TO peeps must buy food right? and after the one day then what? go to regular building is my understanding. as well as this:


> Warsie wrote:

> Due to the phantom building, you can't build 1 TO and get 200% income bonus, you would get 100%.

The numbers you're looking for are 5 or 7.  The difference really comes down to how much endo you need for the rest of your fams build.  More endo needed, spend less on TO's.
I think also it depends on how long until that player gets built.  If you aren't going to build for x period of time, build the extra's, because the tiny bit of extra income you get (while it shows 200%, that is incorrect because of phantom building, so there is a solid difference between 7 and 5 TO) is worth it over the longer period of time.
If you're only going to have the TO's for a day or 2, just build 5, you miss out on a few gc's a tick, but not for long enough to matter.
There were posts made by smarter people than me, who actually work this stuff out and know the numbers, but those posts are gone now ;(
This should do ya however.
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79 (edited by GoKu 26-Apr-2008 18:24:39)

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Is this race any good? Any opinions for improvement?

Population growth: -30%
Income: -30%
Research: 50%
Attack: 50%
Speed: 100%

Spells
No Fear
Find Target Planets

Operations
Spy on Target
Plant False Info
Destroy Units
Sabotage Portal
Investigate Portal
Planetary Infrastructure

Specials
Droid

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its ok.. mebe like to add space amazement for the expo's?

May your aim be true and don't forget to duck big_smile

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Take out plant false info....It's pretty useless and add SA. Then you should be good to go.

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I didnt take SA since I'm guessing there won't be anymore planets to explore once I leave virgo and join the new galaxy.

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@goku: No universes end and start after a certain time. So you might enter a galaxy that has just started or one that has been going on for a while. Look at the universe page: http://www.imperialconflict.com/universe.php

doctor: you do what warsie told you on day one and after a while(couple of days) when your attacker can provide you enough iron and endu you build a lot of buildings, always holding the 70/30 split. And it is my understanding you cant change race into the round.

And maybe to add that you are working in pairs, you deliver cash and your attacker should deliver you the rest. So your attacker should be delivering you your food.

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

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ok. so i change the race before round start to one with TO, then build 7 TO and change back to non TO race if thats what i am. and i only build TO if i have a positive income bonus or a 0 (none) bonus.

sticking strictly to the standard TO Start plan i have no business building TO if i have a negative income bonus in my race

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85 (edited by [RPA] Arocalex 27-Apr-2008 14:53:06)

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No you cant actually chance race unless you delete. You are stuck with the one you choose at the beginning. So you will need a banker race for the TO start. For an attacker strat there are multiple things you could do.

-Build mf's and refinment centers, and 10 hydrophodic farms to feed your banker.
-Go full RC, this means building nothing but research centers until you run out of endu and when you have a high bonus you can build expos at 6000~7000 cash. And when you mass explore with 26 explos you will have saved a lot of cash and have a lot of room to build.

I havent actually played this game for a while so I'm not sure what people do nowadays

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

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"You are stuck with the one you choose at the beginning."

you are not stuck before the start of the round. during the time waiting for fams to fill- there is the box at the top of HQ which contains the "change your empire info" link. its the link we use to change our names and add tags. we have the option to change our race with that link during that time when in galaxy, but before the actual start of the round. big_smile

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" So you will need a banker race for the TO start. For an attacker strat there are multiple things you could do"

No your not, know what your talking about before posting kid.

And why is docter still posting here? Moron needs to get a life:P, and why are u asking about BOR strats, u couldnt seem to follow mine u brain dead LSD addicted dumbass!

Now look at us even AFTER you deleted being our main HC attacker...

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1) every time you post you say something stupid
2) shup igga
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illum you could have just asked me these things on msn, i do actually know wot i am doing tongue

and selur this makes no sense at all:P

"CF/TO max income is 75/25, 80/20 is even better,"

75/25 is max income and therefore the best:P you shud only consider 80/20 or 80/15 if you are obing especially high

I was using a metaphor that means God is watching us. You've heard this, there's a toilet on the roof.

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forgive me Archangel. i began this project before we formally met. it is my intent this thread help n00b1337's such as myself- whom have skillz and want to learn more, but know we are n00bs to wise ancient ones no matter how great our skill. it is also for 1337's to raise a new generation of self-educating players as well as to add skillz to our own powers.

the old writ knowledge was destroyed or vanished with the destrucion of the old forums. in it's place was a blank. now there is something where there was nothing- and it is useful.

i seek only to recover and increase the knowledge of old and new ways, and forge it to it's most current best; state-of-the-art. and i tried to have as much as possible of the knowledge formatted in one thread for ease of finding- a sort of IC College thread for old and new players; thus a lab experiment to accomplish the aforementioned goals. (see also 1st thread post "Epologue" writ at bottom of "Illuminati" thread's 1st post.

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"" So you will need a banker race for the TO start. For an attacker strat there are multiple things you could do"

No your not, know what your talking about before posting kid."

You could be an attacker but that would mean you are losing 20 points( or how much it is), that could be used for something else. And you are losing some income since you should have -30 income

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

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losing some income percent yes. but an overall gain in personal income that may be added to overall fam funds.
having enough resorces is the easy part compared to having enough cash. so i dare the question is "is it worth it?"
in over all fam planning i think yes. it is worth it for that extra cash- regardless of the -30% bonus means used to obtain it.

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its called the market. only reason to take TO as an attacker is to have a high con and pre build explored planets with TO or watever and pass them to bankers. How profitable is it in the long run is debatable. now kindly gtfo and stop trolling. If u are actually serious with this strategy u should take other ppl's advice and ditch it, its not redeemable in anyway.

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<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

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lol you couldn't lead yourself to the bathroom maggot. if you'd been paying attention you'd have seen the subtle shift that took place while you were pzzn on your swollowin' self waitin for your dinkus chance to slam me.

nice point- now pay attention nerd cool

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lmfao ur a bichj

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Kinda stopped reading when he said cfs as attacker... Was hoping it would mention they are fo bankers at some point but then it becomes one of 5 billion different start strats which pretty much change with each round in different galaxies due to
1) different number of players
2) Different starting resourses
3) Different levels of co-ordination between players

If you cant improvise a start strat based on what you are dealing with, no point using someone elses to the dot cause you will screw it up once anything out of the ordinary happens (and no start strat goes perfectly for more than, umm, i dunno, 5-6 hours [and thats kinda pushing it]).

If its just a general playing guide, I think people are better off learning of the guide big_smile. Or the FAQ. Cause impossible though it may sound, those seem to be a better teaching tool than this tongue.

Can you take the Chocolate Rain

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i see the main impression is that chapter 1 is intended as a complete fam start strat.

the primary goal of chapter 1 is a quick way to 6 expos per day, and a secondary goal of a quick beginning to military production. that in itself is not a complete start strat- only goals. how one makes the goal(s) useful is up to the individual(s).

the thread title is "Illuminati" it means "enlightened one". enlightenment usually comes from learning more then the "majority accepted standard way" of doing and thinking of things.
learning to think "outside the box" may improve conditions "inside the box". for example: space exploration in real life leads to developments which improve conditions on earth.

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what a crap strat.

Psychogenesis / Baracus / Coco


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prove or disprove unfounded basis for crap statements otherwise they are ignorant.

lil g if i was- you'd be my pzzywipe cool

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shaddup ur an idiot