>>the graphical effects are spectacular. the acting was good fairly good, any flaws in the acting can be attributed to the fact that the majority of the acting was done using a system similar to but much more complicated then the old green screen system, in which the actual actors suited up and did all the work while watching themselves appear 4 feet taller interacting with objects that werent really there. <<

I keep hearing how the acting was really more difficult than actual movie acting

and the plot was simple and recognizable so you can focus on the sensory impressions

and the dialogue wasn't the point of the movie and was better than average anyhow

how aobut a billion dollar movie that makes no excuses

those happen chris.

look at the dark knight:p

this was basically a test run of this new graphical tech

and no nemeara, its not harsh. you dont know how much of a pain avo likes to make the job of fmodding in every situation he finds a way to try and go against the majority and get us to cater to his personal beliefs, just to piss people off

also are you saying that waterworld didnt need to make any excuses, or are you being sarcastic?

i actually liked the movie, mostly because im a costner fan, but from what ive heard pretty much everyone else in the world thinks its terrible

everyone i kinow who has seen the avatar film  told me the design was great but the scripting was terrible i still want to watch it in 3d tho

^^ crawled into the theater to sober up

> Undeath wrote:

> tand no nemeara, its not harsh. you dont know how much of a pain avo likes to make the job of fmodding in every situation he finds a way to try and go against the majority and get us to cater to his personal beliefs, just to piss people off

i never attempt to grief mods or fmods. i also never try to get anyone to cater to my personal beleifs. i am however not afraid of giving my personal opinion on a matter even if there are a bunch of intolerant nazi's that are going to scream bloody murder when i do.

You're scaring me, Nemeara

@ avo

I suspect - although I obviously can't say for definite! - that the way in which you said what you said rubbed a few people up the wrong way.  You said that the script, acting and so forth was terrible, but said it in a way as to imply it was a fact.  In reality, this is just your opinion, and you provided nothing to backup your opinion.

> [TI] Lateralis wrote:

> @ avo

I suspect - although I obviously can't say for definite! - that the way in which you said what you said rubbed a few people up the wrong way.  You said that the script, acting and so forth was terrible, but said it in a way as to imply it was a fact.  In reality, this is just your opinion, and you provided nothing to backup your opinion.

theres nothing i could provide other then someone else's review to back up the claim which i eventually did. and i dont think i ever implied it was fact.... obviously like and dislike for a movie is 100% opinion...

> ..Nemeara.. wrote:

> oh you lot get yr own thread, this one is for movies

and why am i scaring you blondeh ?

yar, its unfortunate that undead couldnt behave by the standards he holds others to and had to interrupt this thread with personal attacks...

(CNN) -- James Cameron's completely immersive spectacle "Avatar" may have been a little too real for some fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora.

On the fan forum site "Avatar Forums," a topic thread entitled "Ways to cope with the depression of the dream of Pandora being intangible," has received more than 1,000 posts from people experiencing depression and fans trying to help them cope. The topic became so popular last month that forum administrator Philippe Baghdassarian had to create a second thread so people could continue to post their confused feelings about the movie.

"I wasn't depressed myself. In fact the movie made me happy ," Baghdassarian said. "But I can understand why it made people depressed. The movie was so beautiful and it showed something we don't have here on Earth. I think people saw we could be living in a completely different world and that caused them to be depressed."

A post by a user called Elequin expresses an almost obsessive relationship with the film.

"That's all I have been doing as of late, searching the Internet for more info about 'Avatar.' I guess that helps. It's so hard I can't force myself to think that it's just a movie, and to get over it, that living like the Na'vi will never happen. I think I need a rebound movie," Elequin posted.

A user named Mike wrote on the fan Web site "Naviblue" that he contemplated suicide after seeing the movie.

"Ever since I went to see 'Avatar' I have been depressed. Watching the wonderful world of Pandora and all the Na'vi made me want to be one of them. I can't stop thinking about all the things that happened in the film and all of the tears and shivers I got from it," Mike posted. "I even contemplate suicide thinking that if I do it I will be rebirthed in a world similar to Pandora and the everything is the same as in 'Avatar.' "

Other fans have expressed feelings of disgust with the human race and disengagement with reality.

Cameron's movie, which has pulled in more than $1.4 billion in worldwide box office sales and could be on track to be the highest grossing film of all time, is set in the future when the Earth's resources have been pillaged by the human race. A greedy corporation is trying to mine the rare mineral unobtainium from the planet Pandora, which is inhabited by a peace-loving race of 7-foot tall, blue-skinned natives called the Na'vi.

In their race to mine for Pandora's resources, the humans clash with the Na'vi, leading to casualties on both sides. The world of Pandora is reminiscent of a prehistoric fantasyland, filled with dinosaur-like creatures mixed with the kinds of fauna you may find in the deep reaches of the ocean. Compared with life on Earth, Pandora is a beautiful, glowing utopia.

Ivar Hill posts to the "Avatar" forum page under the name Eltu. He wrote about his post-"Avatar" depression after he first saw the film earlier this month.

"When I woke up this morning after watching Avatar for the first time yesterday, the world seemed ... gray. It was like my whole life, everything I've done and worked for, lost its meaning," Hill wrote on the forum. "It just seems so ... meaningless. I still don't really see any reason to keep ... doing things at all. I live in a dying world."

Reached via e-mail in Sweden where he is studying game design, Hill, 17, explained that his feelings of despair made him desperately want to escape reality.

"One can say my depression was twofold: I was depressed because I really wanted to live in Pandora, which seemed like such a perfect place, but I was also depressed and disgusted with the sight of our world, what we have done to Earth. I so much wanted to escape reality," Hill said.

Cameron's special effects masterpiece is very lifelike, and the 3-D performance capture and CGI effects essentially allow the viewer to enter the alien world of Pandora for the movie's 2

I'm gonna use it too

kiss my ass Cameron, 'Puppies Off A Cliff" will pwn you!

"James Cameron's completely immersive spectacle "Avatar" may have been a little too real for some fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora. "

omfg, i think these ppl had prior problems that got an outlet now so to speak, same with trips going bad mebbe