propaganda

lol, i live in NY

It's doomed.

- Congress just voted to extend the annual debt limit to $12.2 trillion dollars.  This means the listed federal debt will be allowed to rise to $12.2 trillion dollars.  This does NOT include the Social Security rollover, because that IOU by Congress to itself for all the money collected by Social Security taxes, plus what was rolled over from last year, plus a year's interest, is actually considered an asset.

The total value of goods and services produced in the United States last year was only $14 trillion.

- Obama says we still have to spend money to save the economy, so suck it.

- Medicare was passed in 1965.  They ran estimates of its cost in 2010. We're already 30x past those estimates.  There's a Medicare surplus fund that Congress kept to tide the program over in tough times.  It's been in the red $5 billion for 2 years now.

- Bush passed a prescription drug entitlement through a Republican Congress.  It's an entitlement for seniors, so like Rush Limbaugh says, he can hold up his prescriptiosn to the pharmacist and say "Thanks for the freebie, sucker".  They also ran cost estimates for years ahead.
It was already 2x as expensive as estimated after three years.

- This health care "reform" puts more unfunded mandates on states -- federal orders that the state do soemthing with no federal money to help the states do it.  States only get money by sucking it out of their state economy or borrowing.

- The health care "reform" will punish doctors who submit too many Medicare bills by refusing to fully repay doctors who submit the top 10% of Medicare bills.  So in other words, a doctor reads up on what medicare lets him charge, sends in the bills, and if by chance he saw too many Medicare patients compared to other doctors in America, he gets paid less. There's a simple way to avoid that...

- The health care "reform" orders you to buy insurance from a for profit company or owe a tax penalty.  That's the first time in the history of the United States that Congress tried that.  Do you think it will be the last time?

- Socialists think double digit employment with 50% tax rates is usual.

The US won

Isn't auto insurance mandatory?  Or is that state-level?

No.... Only if you want to drive on roads built with public dollars.  I can drive my car all over my yard all I want with out insurance, I can own as many un-insured cars that I want, its just illegal to put them on the road.

@DPS, nice, i never thought of it that way.
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States can punish you if you do not have insurance for your vehicle, right? well that should not happen for your health! health should be priority! not a privelage for those who can afford it! 

oh and your healthcare premiums are high now, because of all the non-covered people that go to the ER cuz they dont have PCM.  If they had a PCM, they wouldn't have to go to the ER for minor things, this would bring the premiums for people who are covered down.

but i refuse to think that "socialism" is the problem.  i think that idea of socialism is the strategy used to scare the hell out of people.   socialism would work excelent in this country, because we dont have a dictator.

@chris, i agree with you, this plan we got sucks.   but what else can we do?

i'd prefer they'd leave it alone OR get rid of Medicare adn just give block grants to states for healthcare, and open up insurance to interstate competition.

by having medicare they have an artificial national market for healthcare

health care prices keep going up because Uncle Sucker will pay the bill no matter what

but this country is screwed becasue most people do not believe There Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.  What any citizen needs is so insignificant compared to a national budget of $2,100,000,000,000, that they may as well get it.  Where govt gets it is just theory!  But the value of our dollar is just theory too...

I heard in 2007 that 30% of America was born since 1980  that means 1/3 of us have no freaking clue what double digit inflation looks like. Oh baby.

oh and re Auto Insurance: it covers a crash, not maintenance.  Unlike health insurance.

We are all doomed...

...And if you think a certain 'side' of politics is going to doom your country, you
are just being silleh . Countries rise and fall, thats just life. I doubt the U.S or
even China will exist as-is in 1,000 years time.

BeoWolfe, you do that. Just dont crash into a fire hydrant and hurt yourself.

Don't worry so much... as along as China continues to bankroll your deficits you guys will do fine.

P.S BTW over-inflating your currency would destroy your economy completely considering the massive gap between imports and exports and how reliant the U.S is on its financial services industry which in turn relies alot on govt and private being able to borrow. You would literally have to start from ground zero and guess who has the factories and the attitude to churn out basics like pots and pans. Good luck competing with China on its own turf.

"you can talk you guys can always take over NZ for quick money"

Hey, there ain't much money down here in NZ to take man... we ain't exactly in the clear either.

America is doomed. Our elites have become sheltered from reality and are driven by short-term gain. I predict a dictatorship in a few decades if this continues.