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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

but his level is cool Lyv yikes

He got all the support of mods (YOU?) to break a nap, and he even got war bonus to do it, some mod manipulated my relations page, 84' relations page and told Ebola in 78 to undeclare on us.

Let me explain:

-the tic before war started with 85 (because it was suposed ONLY 85) Rainin came to our alliance chatroom and talked in a private with me, saying I was commiting warblocking, I told him it wasnt my fault 84 and 78 have the war declared on my fam, 84 declared long ago after a few grabs from machine, then went inactive, many deleted ... no way of getting the war undeclared.
78 declared on us and we declared on them for our war, but unless they acepted the surrender offer for 68 planets they never surrendered those planets, we couldnt even take half of them, their fam disrupted, their leader deleted and teh new leader was pissed about me, that way I am not so dumb to undeclare on them and let them attack us for 48h without retaliation, dont you get it?

-Rainin (who was spying our chatroom btw) told me he was talking to mods because I was commiting warblocking. Curiously, the tic after, my relations page appeared to be manipulated by mods, they didnt check about the reasons, they didnt give clues of warblocking, they just gave Rainin and Templare the unfair advantage of warbonus, when they shouldnt have taken it.

-The worst and shamefull thing in it is THEY (YOU??) GAVE 86 WAR BONUS EVEN KNOWING THEY WERE BREAKING A NAP.

-The other worst thing is after my relations page is manipulated I find I am not allowed to attack 78  WHY???

Look:

This was the tic war started:

~~VPW - Viruses of PinWheel - (2978) has DECLARED WAR on us.

We have DECLARED WAR on family ~~VPW - Viruses of PinWheel - (2978). End the war.!

The Comebacks! (2984) has DECLARED WAR on us.


This was the tic after:

We have DECLARED WAR on family ~~VPW - Viruses of PinWheel - (2978). End the war.

Incredibads (2985) has DECLARED WAR on us.

WoW: Frostmourne Hungers... (2986) has DECLARED WAR on us.


I didn't touched anything at relations, the mods tricked it,
Now I cannot even attack 78, I am not allowed

-Then I got banned from spamming and saying nice things to the coward cheaters, that's ok

-Next from my ban status I send msgs to all family leaders telling them about what had happened, trying to defend myself from the acusation of warblocking (bcause I cannot post in forums, neither in my fam forum). I got several answers saying I am right and what has hapened is a crappy bullshit, except for stupid leader of 77 saying "wrong message", so they dont mind what has hapened, but hey he minds now WHEN IT COMES TO HIM. Action and reaction, it is phisics basis, you shoulda read Newton, or even better you shoulda at least be SOLIDARY with us for what they doen.

-I have earned a good reputation of a player with honor in this game, but it serves for nothing when mods have to decide about a possible warblocking and they position in the side of the players showing LACK of honor. I only expect now that I turned a bad boy I will be friend of the modteam like Rainin and Templare did wink

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

+The+Dark+Shuffle+of+PinWheel+ (2981) has DECLARED WAR on us

what is going on here.. lol..

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

hmmm well i sure didnt do that

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

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29 Reply by medo (edited by Rin 22-Dec-2009 15:23:55)

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

Week 39, 4

Surrender 3,19 for 2981 -> 8 planets
and 1,17 for 2991 -> 2 planets
Explore 2 planets in x,y for 2991
We keep all the planets we already have taken in other systems
You acept this now and you get a permanent NAP

The pNAP means:
-You can explore freely where we are, even in our cores
-We can explore freely where you are, even in your core

Your ally 2988 can be included in the deal if they want to pNAP us.

Advantage of pNAP is that your round is not over because we are giving you a lot of free space to explore and progress in peace.

The only clause of a pNAP is this: 'It is PERMANENT' not cancelable

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Sent to your leader and to Plant also

Signed, MithLake of Dark Render (2981)

Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member dunno much had to flee the planet planet  system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member dunno much had to flee the planet planet  system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member mali had to flee the planet planet  system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member mali had to flee the planet planet system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member dunno much had to flee the planet planet  system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member mali had to flee the planet planet  system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member mali had to flee the planet planet system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member mali had to flee the planet planet  system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member mali had to flee the planet planet 1 system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member mali had to flee the planet planet  system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member mali had to flee the planet planet  system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member mali had to flee the planet planet 6 system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member mali had to flee the planet planet system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member dunno much had to flee the planet planet  system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member mali had to flee the planet planet  system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member dunno much had to flee the planet planet  system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member dunno much had to flee the planet planet system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member dunno much had to flee the planet planetsystem which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member dunno much had to flee the planet planet 15 in the
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member dunno much had to flee the planet planet 13 in the system which was attacked by Dark Machine of family 2981.
Week 31, 19  After a brave fight our family member dunno much had to flee the planet planet system which was attacked by Dark

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30 Reply by LORD XiXi LT (edited by LORD XiXi LT 22-Dec-2009 15:21:00)

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

lol. you sent me planets list with no explanation. how should i understand what happened? i dont read forums. i dont look what big fams do,i dont have time for that.and then you send me some cords.i looked at them, there werent my family shares or something. thats why i told you have sent me wrong messages.  do i always have to ask people what happened if they send me unknown messages? if you wanted me to know that,you could have sent normal messages,not just planets list.

and now what,after PNAP has been broken,you are going to kick 2 times smaller fams` ass?

+The+Dark+Shuffle+of+PinWheel+ (2981) has DECLARED WAR on us.

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

> Rin wrote:

> hmmm well i sure didnt do that


then who did it?? You should investigate if you really mind players like me dont go berserker

And Plant, sorry I apreciate you as player, but I decided to be a bad boy for reasons stated above

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

been fairly busy with shop during the Christmas rush but i will ask about it.

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

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however do ask yourself if nap breaking on an innocent fam really did you any good. If i had logs from mod chat about the forum block i would send it to you. you had a pretty high rep standing with me and torqez.

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

well.. no hard feelings.. lets just enjoy the round to the end.. win or lose, we will still see each other next round smile

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

Plant I haven't still attacked your fam, it is only Machine's rage, I only put the war status as requested by Machine, he got loads of planets for the fam during all the round, now it seems everybody hates him, it is not fair.

I will tell him to stop anyway as long as the mods can investigate what hapenned with the misterious manipulations in my RP

your retakes are expected, I wont be taking them as war actions


and Lyv ... does a high reputation serve for anything in this game? We worked hard to win the round, coming from the bottom of the table without breaking any rule or any nap, giving naps and pnaps to fams below #10 so they should not worry about us anymore, then we go to war on a big fam for EOR and we find out another big fam (not their ally, in fact their enemy during all the round) drop their allies and join them to fight us, and they do it by breaking a nap on us 7 tics before nap expired.

Templare says it was unfair 2vs1, but initially it was not 2vs1, it was our alliance vs another alliance, we fought for spots to attack them at eor, we did great as an allilance planning wars together as an alliance must do, it was not unfair at all, it was skill playing ftw. As 85 expects a defeat they allow 86 (their allround enemies) to join them and break a nap on us. The worst part in it comes when they get mod support to do it sad

76 and 82 should have something to say about all this crap, but since I dont get recognition then I became the fool that I am

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yay! we have 48 NAP ENDING with 2987 after 5 ticks. that will be very nice smile fighting both fams at same time. or i think we shouldnt call it a fight with 81,since everything...

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

I AM SURE that we have signed PNAP
We have signed a NON-AGGRESSION PACT with family +The+Dark+Shuffle+of+PinWheel+ (2981)
+The+Dark+Shuffle+of+PinWheel+ (2981) has signed a NON-AGGRESSION PACT with us.
NOW PNAP IS PIECE OF SHIT , BECOUSE YOU Dark Render (2981) BREAK PNAP

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Plant I haven't still attacked your fam, it is only Machine's rage, I only put the war status as requested by Machine, he got loads of planets for the fam during all the round, now it seems everybody hates him, it is not fair.

I will tell him to stop anyway as long as the mods can investigate what hapenned with the misterious manipulations in my RP

your retakes are expected, I wont be taking them as war actions


and Lyv ... does a high reputation serve for anything in this game? We worked hard to win the round, coming from the bottom of the table without breaking any rule or any nap, giving naps and pnaps to fams below #10 so they should not worry about us anymore, then we go to war on a big fam for EOR and we find out another big fam (not their ally, in fact their enemy during all the round) drop their allies and join them to fight us, and they do it by breaking a nap on us 7 tics before nap expired.

Templare says it was unfair 2vs1, but initially it was not 2vs1, it was our alliance vs another alliance, we fought for spots to attack them at eor, we did great as an allilance planning wars together as an alliance must do, it was not unfair at all, it was skill playing ftw. As 85 expects a defeat they allow 86 (their allround enemies) to join them and break a nap on us. The worst part in it comes when they get mod support to do it sad

76 and 82 should have something to say about all this crap, but since I dont get recognition then I became the fool that I am

first part no one supported his actions, he just didnt break the rules doing so. and i called his move a dick move on irc.

2nd part about the nap break, i wasnt aware of it and i disagree with his action.

u did get kicked in the nuts pretty much but it happens to the best of us, but remember this is still a game, just take ur revenge for future round or not to trust him ever again. no need for you to pretty much cracked it. hate to tell you this but you are not the only victim of dishonorable play in this game. i could tell you about my nap breaks but i dont think anyone cares.

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

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39 Reply by Render (edited by Render 22-Dec-2009 16:26:43)

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

I say mods supported his action when they give him war bonus status by manipulating RPs knowing he was breaking a nap, I am not saying it was you, I say 'mods' in general.

And btw, 78 never cancelled war on us until the tic after, just to give 85 war bonus, isnt it IA ?? when they suposed to be very angry to us they suddenly cancel war yikes   but it is hilarous I am not allowed to attack 78 aswell yikes



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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

lol I can't be a bad boy tho I try it, I am not allowed to !! tongue

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

give planets back  + compensation

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

lol, that was exactly what I told templare when he broke nap on me, it sounds ridiculous I must reckon

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

btw, you are the bad boy, you did everything,but somehow machine attacked us,and now machine wants the war on us ?  so maybe there are 2 bad boys?

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

one little question:

About war:    One family must have declared war to make it a war. You and families that you are in war with both have a bonus of 10% attack strength on the battlefield against each other when attacking. Also the loss of morale is reduced by 50%. The minimum duration of a war is 48 hours game time and after peace has been declared no party can attack for 48 hours game time. You can declare a maximum of two wars and only 2 wars can be declared against you, unless you declared war first. By clicking on their number, you can directly view the enemy family.

^Taken from the guide

Now my RP:

video vidi visum (2977) has DECLARED WAR on us.
We have DECLARED WAR on family video vidi visum (2977). End the war.
We have DECLARED WAR on family ~~VPW - Viruses of PinWheel - (2978). End the war.
Incredibads (2985) has DECLARED WAR on us.
WoW: Frostmourne Hungers... (2986) has DECLARED WAR on us.

It is ok 77 can declare on us because I have declared on them before, but on the other side, 85 and 86 declared on me first and I cannot declare back. A bug? hmm

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

lol forget about it I am a noob after all

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

This is a blatant lie:

This was the tic war started: <----- War was declared on you by me(2986) 2 hours before war started for bonus (on my own), my allies (2985) could not do the same, which is what prompted Rainin's visit to the mods (30 minutes before the war). The mods responded that we must contact 2978 individually for them to physically remove war because they cannot do so, so please don't blemish the mods name. They did not grant any special permission to this war.

You condoned Machine's act to break the PNAP, therefore you will be punished, by us wink

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Actually, your explanation is mostly wrong, and you obviously don't understand how war bonuses work. Us (2986) received bonus because we declared 2 ticks prior. 2985 declared the tick after war, after 2978 undeclared, and they received bonus 3 ticks after the war. Mods did NOTHING to your relations page, they simply explained to us that we must convince slifty to undeclare before 2985 can declare.

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> Suspicious Whisperer wrote:

> Actually, your explanation is mostly wrong, and you obviously don't understand how war bonuses work. Us (2986) received bonus because we declared 2 ticks prior. 2985 declared the tick after war, after 2978 undeclared, and they received bonus 3 ticks after the war. Mods did NOTHING to your relations page, they simply explained to us that we must convince slifty to undeclare before 2985 can declare.


it is IMPOSSIBLE you could get war bonus 2 tics before war started because we had 84 and 78 declared on us, no room for you.

More fun, you are reckon Rainin went to ask 78 leader to undeclare, only that way he could get war bonus, so you only are confirming 78 commited IA, the problem is WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ATTACK 78, the reason?? idk

lol it is fun how you throw more shit over yourselves trying to excuse your dirty acts

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Re: 2981 broke PNAP badly

it is easy to understand.

we were at war vs 78, then we want to go at war vs 85 without declaring at RP, but 78 even cancels war to let 85 get war bonus

CLEAR AS WATER ----> IA ----> BULLSHIT

but we arent allowed to attack 78 yikes   MAGIc??? yikes

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