Yay, Justinian finally realised logic sucks! First time I see some sense coming from you!

Congratulations and have fun, go live your life

lol zarf

well, seems lke you might ve given it a bit more thought than one might think initially frozenice pointed out some usefull stuff
the best of  luck wishes still stand ^^
that girl is going to teach you real life justi

Justinian you are doing the right thing, trust your heart.
I have a family similar to yours and know how you feel, sometimes they are so egoist they turned your worst enemy, but without realising they are. Best option is find a way of escape, moving far is not always the solution, but it is a first step to get rid of them.
I have moved also

I rofl'd when I read it and I rofl'd harder when render said trust in your heart. I can't believe people bought that BS. Trust in whatever will lead you to stability down the road. Browser game whores come and go, but an education can get you jobs which will leave you with enough money to actually retire one day.

But good luck to ya!

"You can have sex when you're single, and there a considerable financial risks of being married. You may enjoy some tax benefits, but I don't think they're worth the high risk of divorce."

There is only a high risk of divorce if you are an idiot who married for idiot reasons like; you've had sex, you've known each other for one whole month, you have one thing in common, you're afraid of dying alone, you're afraid of being single, you're afraid they'll be (or continue to be) unfaithful if you don't marry.

The more I thnk about it the more I think the Indians got it right.

"being offended by brown/poor people"

Interesting ...

~ Cloud

"being offended by poor people who were too lazy to put themselves through college or even highschool and now want you to pay all their bills because you weren't an idiot when you were young"

^^ fixed

he's doing more interesting things than post here

w00t!

You idiot.

Go back home, right this instant Sir. There is no place like home, and certainly there is no place like home in the arms of a slutty skank who cant get sum in her own local community.

If you wanna spite your parents, get drunk beyond the hope of reason, beat up 5 dudes at the same time, preferrably a priest, police officer, bikergang-dude, gay man and colored man. To make it better, you make sure to cum alittle on the gay dude before you leave em.

You WILL definatly spend some time in jail for this.

The good parts of this are many ;

1. You are officially now a badboy - Your parents hate you, fear you alittle, and your dad might dig you alittle.

2. You are officially now a badboy - Chicks dig you.

3. Life experience - Yah nothing says "I spite my parents and Im living my own life, quite like getting thrown in jail for beating up 5 different people, all with 5 different significant ethnical, political or violent groups they belong to.

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What you do though, you move (idiot) far far away, from all that is safe (idiot) to live the poor life, bumming it (idiot) with some girl you met off the internet (do I really need to repeat myself more than three times in here ?)

When each of you dont meet eachothers expectations the relationship will crumble. Believe me on this. I know you wont, so just stuff it in the back of your head for now. Cause when it crumbles I want it to pop-out saying "I told you so !"

Then you have no place to live - And thats not cool. nor attractive. nor badboy. Its just being a bum. Its sad.

Then you have no social network - cause the one you're getting there is HER social network. Make no mistake about this, when you're outta her life, they are too. You will be alone. A single bum. Its not that rare.

Then you have no real economy and no hopes of a future - Its depressive. And as the bills start piling up, cause the dead-end job is actually dead-end taking you nowhere and not really paying for what needs to be paid...well...it doesnt get better.

I hope you reconsider. I hope you return home, beg your parents for forgiveness and finish atleast the one year of school.

Cause even a non-important major, is better than no major. It says something about your character. Makes you a quitter in the eyes of all the people able to give you a better future. Quitters dont get jobs with a future. Quitters get dead-end jobs...til they quit.

so yah..hope you'll reconsider. You are blissfully wasting your life like an idiot and I am sad to see it happen.

Nemeara,

Yup

Damon,

You surprisingly have a lot of good points, even if you weren't being serious in certain parts. But you did not consider one important variable, motivation. My family allowed me to be slothful and hedonistic. Continuing to be supported by my family would only reinforce past values, and not bring me success.

My actions really are not as stupid as they sound. I need motivation. And frankly, building motivation begins with necessity . My actions are a risky gamble, but I have 3 months to get a job and network or lose (become dependent on the mercy of others). I'm playing to win, and I'm gambling everything.

About the girl. She is not a girlfriend. She is a room mate, although there is a possibility of us dating that I'm not depending on. My plan is to use these room mates as a temporary support net to build my own independence, and they likewise are using me to cut their rent. And my family really does suck, but I have smoothed our relations and have been promised a bail out if I fail.

> .:]FfT[:. ~Damon~ wrote:

> Justinian,

I was dead serious in all parts, and I am glad you find my points valid. However the fact that you are not acting as I intended, and are actually going through with this tells me you ignore these points, and then I fail to see the use of the validity of such.

After evil-eyeing your post, I have found couple things I feel the need to comment though...>

You're welcome. I'm grateful for the many valuable insights you had to offer me that I will carry on in to the future, but I also disagreed with your main conclusion for the following reasons.

1. I think you assign too much causal weight to a person's will. Much of a person's outcome depends on their circumstances, and my parent's played a role because they provided an opportunity for me that I took advantage of. Key word is role, and I also played a role by seizing it.

2. I am not bumming off of my room mates. I am fully aware that effective diplomacy is about appealing to self-interest. I would not have persuaded them to agree to this arrangement if I had not. I signed the lease and payed 3 months up front and I still have enough left over to pay for at least those 3 months of utilities and food. Currently, my relationship with my room mates is one of mutual advantage - I cut their bills and they give me a place to live. I am fully aware they will kick me shortly after I'm unable to cover my expenses. Humans are a selfish and sorry lot, and I know this.

3. I still maintain that necessity is the mother of motivation. Clearly there's more to the poor staying poor, such as drug addiction, mental illness or a criminal record.

4. The girl is simply one room mate that I used as an entertainment device when making this thread. Sure I would sleep with her, but I did not come here expecting to date her and nor am I foolish enough to hang on to a girl for months. I came here to get away from my backstabbing and irritating family, and this was the most favorable opportunity I had available.

5. I have an exit strategy. My family is now understanding and they have guaranteed they would bail me out if my gamble did not turn out well. I hope it does not come to this, but at least I know I'll survive if I fail here.

6. I will have the means to finish my education and pay my loans after I receive my inheritance, which is predicted to be in a year.