You care a lot then to go on irc and ask =p

well human is curious by nature, and i was hoping it was someone i knew, becuase then its all good and fun. but youre just sad and i still only know of your name, not a thing else, atleast you know what me and my banker has done.

something is pathetic here, its tru' he does like to break alliances and naps but all are alowed in war right?

however my friend, Glue is looking at it in a dyplomatic way(and he is 99% right)

If Black wouldnt have dropped us as allies they could have been 1st atm with many wars won i would say over 1500 planets to 13 and 10 considering we fought about 20 families this round and considering most were bigger and with more attackers and active ones, and we didnt drop a bit, since we started fighting(800 planets) till now when only I lost 250+ planets(1250 planets) -due to a 3 times bigger family raid lol...

Er Roar, what you on about? What nap have I broken? I dropped your family bcoz Wiwi was leader the night we signed, didn't come on for next 4 days, and you Roar, the cf banker, was the only guy attacking in 13. So we had to drop you lmao. Artic was your only lifeline and he was doing something in America or something. Was away for 2 weeks, lol. Your fam literally went inactive the day we signed the nap, lol. I play for fun and your family was no fun, no one was ever online, lol.

And I was away due to RL when nap discussions were going on. I weren't even leader lmao. I just retook leadership yesterday! So I wouldn't say someone is 99% right when you don't know what went on, lmao!

No, i wasnt talking about the nap:), just the ally drop... and i was saying you could have won more by not doing it:)

its all fun here torqez!!!! dont worry about it

and you could just as good close it cause there is a poll on HQ right? click-click-click->done...

OH, me being a dickhead nas nothing to do with it.
Your buddy mangoza is just a sore loser.
we kicked their asses back to their cores after him and 2423 attacked us during a war, aka vultured our for several days, he got more family members involved, but what is to be expected when you have players like portgas and lohan.
OH and before our war with 2417, he was killing my portal spread with 2417, i had to jump 600k droids before the war to stop him from taking my portals. Anyway, after we kicked their ass, they had several fail raid attempts meanwhile your paxes were opping our bankers to shit. Anyway, i got abit tired, let stuff lead, he talked to ouro i heard, he posted in our forums to stop attacking 2410 because he reached an agreement, than we get a nice message from Mangoza saying he wont accept the nap and that he doesnt care what his family does he will continue to attack.
After he got his portals in he jumped till 4 mil nw and started taking mine. so you just have a bunch of low life liars:D
Next thing we know you got leadership, than after 2 hours, mangoza had leadership, and ofc at that point 2417 apocapylse deleted with 170 planets, you guys mass explored, portgas was trying to portal in our cores, lohan was sending me messages to stop attacking him cus he wont attack us till this nap deal is sorted out. All this while we *had a cease fire* or so our forums said.
So excuse me for thinking so low you, you poor thing.

Hmm.. did i mention Mangoza and i made a nap deal in saggitarius? well he asked me for a nap at sor.
2 hours ago be broke the nap and attacked me. saying he's playing within the games parameters and that's fair for him.
Honestly i dont care much right now what others say about me, people who know me, know me.
With my bad leadership i got my family 3rd in size from 26th with only 1 nap all around, i encourage you to try doing the same, than you can talk about my bad leadership skills. I hate leading, i mostly hate the diplomacy part of it, i hate having to be online all day and telling people what to do, but this round i did it, and you had no idea with who i had to put up with, and what bullshit happened to us.
Also to to talk about my allies, if they said that its pretty lame, considering my ally nuked my CF banker for attacking his planet by mistake. SO yeah when you have allies that nuke you for a failed attack, by mistake.. im pretty sure they are the ones to talk shit.
Anyway if people talk behind my back so what? it always happens, people are jelous usually and they would say anything to make them look good.
End capri early, there is a clear winner, dunno why we would keep this going for 2 more weeks.
noone can beat 2414 in size, if they war someone else right away they will win for sure, they have as hitload of savings anyway

EDIT: for mr frozenmoronice, im not at all angry, why would i be? because some shitheads will do any low move to win some personal vendetta with me? great. i always had that during my ic years.
people who are sore losers shouldnt play this game, ever heard of something called fair-play? your probably american so you didnt.

Torqez sorry for the huge topic

end capri

So mango was leader when nap was broken in capri, then he just breaks nap in sd on you right.

So I don't excuse you for thinking of me so lowly. I don't have a clue what this has to do with me? I didn't even know your guy had quit, lmao. If that long story above was some sort of apology, then you are as good as saying sorry as you are at diplomacy, lmao. Im not surprised your ally is nuking you.

So when things go badly and even your ally is nuking you, lmao, which I do find genuinely funny btw, then maybe instead of pointing the finger of blame at me when I have got nothing to do with this, maybe you should look at yourself and question why these things are happening.

If you wish to take back your comments, send an ingame message and it will be np. Otherwise, keep an eye on your HQ!

Glue - 'people who are sore losers shouldnt play this game'

You accusing an innocent man and your suggesting others are the sore loser?

How about next round, if someone insults you in a thread, your allowed to defend yourself without being threatened with a fban?

And sort out the nap thing as suggested in the Ideas thread, this would also solve the problems discussed here.

Larger families in the past worked well because of the larger numbers, even spread across heaps of gals.

You can't expect it to work the same with far less players, otherwise you are going to continue to see 1 fam or alliance dominate round after round.

Look at the last ICPG, 16 player fams, big fail.

Keep the fams to 13, or lower them and the drafts, but don't increase fam size and drafts.

I say even smaller fams, 8 ppl and 2 drafts perhaps.

Big fams takes too much time to manage, the stress on the leaders are too big

ive been playing 5 man team this round torqez, and for someone who desnt wanna spend the whle day on mirc managing fambank (believe me ive done it before) it worked pretty well