Indeed!

Last two weeks tend to drag for me. So heres my wild suggestion, lol.

6 week round, tri-alliance, 21 fams of 18 players. Then we got 7 big-ass tri-alliances that once signed pre-round cannot be changed. And with the shorter round, it would be all out carnage.

So we bring back the popular tri-alliance and larger fams, plus we will see less naps and more war.
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WRONG.  First you wouldn't have the galaxy fil up with that many spots.  Second, you wouldn't see more wars, you would see all round expo phase.  Three if you tried to correct that by making the galaxy small, all you would see is week 1 and 2 rapes in expo phase and half the families dead by week 3.

Current problem for me was we didn't have the room for enough attackers. By the time you got a pop, afew cf bankers, a few resourcers, and a farmer, your pretty near the 13 man limit. Im looking at fams in top 15 and don't see many attackers tbh. 15 members would be pretty cool, 18 would allow some interesting strategies for sure.
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That was your choice to set it up like that? =p  Not the games.

As for your comments about AA
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He just can't lead for shit without his fams falling apart =P

Also, with no Draco, if you take away the drafting in Capri, you won't see anyone donate to this game again, and then the game really does die! So drafting needs to stay! Plus I will sue the mods for my donation, lol. For those who have voted for option 3 (no drafts) go look at Pinwheel, its been tried, tested and failed. So why are we discussing this again?
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Like I mentioned on the first page, be an easy thing to just reintroduce draco with some changes to fix the issue of playing with friends.  Also, you wouldn't lose many vips because most vips are bought by attackers and are not bought for the purpose of attacking but for the convenience while attacking.  Also pinwheel worked great for many rounds.  The player base is just too low now that pinwheel really suffers.

I think 10 player fams with 2 drafts is the write in ballot, pyf

Tbh there ain;t many active players as it is atm. So reducing the fam size reduces the numbers in irc and forum chatting. Thats half the fun of this game. 10 man fams are great if you got 10 draft spots, lol.

10 man = less activity per family, making it more boring when i log on to my famchat. Thats going to make me quit this game.

Larger fams = Worked in the past, good fun, every fam ends up with active/experienced players and there are people in your fam chat. I would sooner large fams and no allies then 10 man with allies. I just want a family where there are several players as active as me, and with 10 man, thats unlikely. So drafting needs to stay to accomodate this, and bigger fams need to come into play.

So yeh, with larger fam size and less fams, how about no allies this round?

Larger fams = Worked in the past, good fun, every fam ends up with active/experienced players and there are people in your fam chat. I would sooner large fams and no allies then 10 man with allies. I just want a family where there are several players as active as me, and with 10 man, thats unlikely. So drafting needs to stay to accomodate this, and bigger fams need to come into play.

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It worked with player numbers in the thousands.

I assumed Pyf was talking about the options which were featured in the ingame poll, which are the 4 posted in the first post..

As an idea it fits perfectly sure It was mine too!

And yes, it was really funny and witty to mess around with IC when you had a big number of players. Let's create drafting, I wanna play with my friends! Let's create Virgo, I don't want to actually have to look for multis! It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where this was heading.

Curiously the ones responsible for that aren't around anymore, not for a long time.

8 man fams plx, 1 vip 1 draft spot.

whot i would wanna see if a map where all systems ar equally devided on the starchart and same for fam homes, so that every home is the same tick ammount away from the other home it gives the less organised fams a bit of a chance to grow at bor instaid getting raped rite away. better to rape em later theyll hav had some more fun (perhaps learned something this time before going inactive)

You usually talk to little kids over the internet? lol. And I recognise the difference between 3 and 10 and did mention this in my post, don't think you read it properly. My point was there is little difference between 13 down to 10 in terms of benefit. I don't see one positive of this. Where 13 up to 16 is a benefit in communication, fun and strategy.

Pain, whats the difference between 8 and 10. I don't see the benefit.

Reduction of drafts spots means good players quit bcoz they can't get in an active family. Distribution of players ... equals more fams. Thats the one thing we don't need. The more fams, the more inexperience per fam equalling less strategies and good wars. We got 32 fams in Capri this round, only about 15 of those can claim to have actually tried. Seriously, check the bottom rankings. There is no competition in those bottom ranks, its just where players get bad luck and random in one of those fams.

Rick, you got a lot of decent players in your family, so I can understand your view. But so many mid ranks fams and below have crap leaders who ain't got a clue tbh. Less fams equal more knowledge/experience/activity per family, meaning greater competition. I can't believe we are debating this, lol.

Quote - 'I have decent players in my family?  No.  I have inactives who don't listen =p'

Now randomly choose 3 of those guys, kill them from your family, and thats what your left with next round. Not much fun is it?

Bigger fams equal more activity which snowballs into more motivation, more strats, more fun. Less guys gona mean your fam and mine are gona be even less active next round. And then we gona post in here wondering why people keep quitting and we are bored!

We have reduced fam size for long enough, lets just try big fams for one round, see how it goes.

13 player fams 0 or 2 drafts would be best. Players can still play with friends.I think the talent may be spread a little bit better out.

Well frozen ice I understand how it feels to be in a not so good fam ,but honestly being in a decent fam with high hopes and getting smashed early with only say 20 fams of 18 players sure say 15 will have a decent shot on day ,but what about after 1 week 10 fams 2 weeks 4 fams. I don't see that helping as much as leaving the fams at 13 ,but with less drafts.

Leadership is a big issue so many not so good leaders or ones that want to nap the whole gal (melvin) then goes inactive. anyways I think ic is best off with 13 player fams 0 or 2 drafts.

18 man fams, 6 weeks long would b good fun. Not if your fam is dead after the first week Frozenice

Also Vip and yama's was the beganing of a lot of down time for ic. Its basically impossible to sneak up on anyone now In the old days before vip the game was different if you didn't put in the time to manually check every system you possibly could then your fam could be in danger. Thats another topic sortof

Not calling for less then 13 players ,but 13 is a good fam number and 2 drafts per fam would allow players to play with a couple friends. ,but still the leaders would still be spread out.

There are only so many decent leaders in this game and your 18 player fam with 4 drafts would Hurt quite a few fams right off the back.

Leading is more then just a start plan so many fams get off to good starts then die later
Leading is more then making naps as to many naps you lack targets to little and your over extended
Leading is more then knowing war or econ.

Anyways a 18 player per fam is way to much and you would see why that is. sure there will be a few good fams which you may be a part of ,but honestly a lot of fams will miss out on the elite leaders in ic today!