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Mark's showing your new gf a good time cause your 1 eye is blind. got strat yet? 
i do and share 
so even if im hated at least i do more then peter-chase lil Gary
ouuuuuuuu boinker blocked AGAIN fool!!!!!!!!!! :lol
you comin with strat or what cause you spend too much time on me to be of use to your gf and im only interested in IC in the strat forum, Dinkus Minimus
Pretty sure we got strat, were #1 even with losing you as our main HC attacker after we jumped you at BOR:)
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ITT trolls
youu dont know how to talk to m3 geek
fu ur gf ur father and ur birthmother with, my, dk
u never come with strat or any other way
i'm through with you
dismissed
next.
"SoR
Build 2 tranny *military production option
Build 2RF, 20MF, 5HF, the rest RC. *use the market.
Research is adjusted to 100%Welfare."
Welfare ?
Thats just wrong - I dont think you know how welfare works 
sor pop maxes in 1 day at -30%. so if the goal is 6 expos per day- i need only cash to complete my mission. instead of RC therefore LQ may be better for SS- but for a fam needing resource and that SS (or other player contributing) to fam, then RC is a way to boost the pop max.
plus once max desired sci bonus achieved in welfare- shift the percent to construction.
that part is new so i still edit out bugs, while try find way to explain how i do
goal at that point is 6 expos a day
haha i think 663 is better off without you
@ })0CT3R W}{{}!!!
Starting LQs is too slow at BOR
And if yr not starting LQs then welfare is a waste of time.
Even for a player who builds LQs at BOR - Its better to research ECO before Welfare since ECo will give you the same income increase without the extra food costs.
Im kinda confused by your strat - Its a one player strat ? and you recommend building fleet, and resources, and researching welfare ? at BOR ?
I think you would be better off looking at and maybe adapting some of the well known strats that have been shown to be succesful over time.
Your strat is a recipe for a crap round - sorry 
you put me in check right 
how to make the strat better? it is a one player strat ment for adaption option to team play. i'd like to see better strats but no one has posted as of yet one in new forum. i'd certainly adapt/modify. and i are willing to accept help doing it.
Dirty i will good luck to those of 663 whom deserve it for not behaving with subhuman character. ie: the complete trash i spoke to my targets & vs versa. srry for any unwilling partys to my torts.
i tried "gentalman's diplomacy". now fk'em if no willing nor caring to comprehend. to the rest of 663- my apology.
There are two types of SS players and your start strat really will depend on what type you are and in particluar what race you choose.
There are SS players that take an income bonus and then also make their own resources etc... , quite a few players do this successfully regularly. If you want to do this then you could go quantam or even wardancer or make your own race with an income bonus and the rest depends on how you want to play.
The other type of SS player will take a normmal attacking race (-30% income, 50% reserch, 100% speed etc...) and then build MFs/RFs & maybe some farms then sell
Many players do this well
i am usually SS and have played both styles with exception of i use my abnormal attacking race (-30%pop,-30% income, etc..except i use TO also)
but anyway what should be SS goal at SOR in your opinion? and what should an SS build at that time- to accomplish goal? would we be able to adapt/ modify to Illuminati Project, or are the works you speak of unadaptable/ unmodifiable to it.
maby to make it easy i ask a ssolid start strat of you so i my learn better at the least, and uber-ultimate at best.
Were you bully at school big Gary
If })0CT3R W}{{}!!! wants to learn/try different strats why not help him & make suggestions instead of constant insults 
@ })0CT3R W}{{}!!!
I cant see any reason why you would want TO's in your race, With -30% income you shouldnt be building any CFs or LQs, Your Gross income will be tiny and your net income will be negative for most of the round. It doesnt make any sense for you to build TOs.
Even if you wanted to do the 7 TO start, you dont need TOs in your race; you take a race with TOs, start building them before round starts, then change your race back to one without tos. (But anyway I dont think you wnt to do a 7 TO start if you are SS. )
Your income will come from the resources you sell on the market- the only stuff you should build is MFs, RFs & RCs maybe farms too (possibly a few Ocs-).
Research at BORshould be 100% constrcution, you definitely shouldn't research ECO or Welfare with -30% income. Later in round you could switch to military & constr if you're planning on attacking much.
Ku, my lab does not support the heart of your statement about TO. they are indeed usefull to me. still in all i learn from you "the standard". now how may it be improved, i ask, in reference to what you last spoke to me.
my aim is to "push the envelope", to break into a point beyond the standard. i seek "state of the art"- the fastest, best, and if possible most economical.
but for now i settle for fastest way to make 6 expos per day as SS- including market crash possibility. (build ratios, etc...)
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> })0CT3R W}{{}!!! wrote:
> *[Updated example for Illuminati strat]
1) is this thought of as bad for SS starting/owning 1 planet, at -30%income.
2) what if non SS and aiding fam at sor. how is it bad/good?
254,253gc food 364,015 iron 14,705 octarine 2,038 endurium 6,923 15,170 Morale 110%
Last Week's Affairs
Cash
Income +9049
Units -39
Buildings -1570
Bureaucracy -1240
Net income 6200
Food
Food produced +30500
Food consumed -25384
Food decayed -1804
Net flow 3312
Resources
Iron produced +373
Iron decayed -72
Endurium produced +175
Endurium decayed -34
Octarine produced +51
Octarine decayed -10
Science points
Military +65
Welfare +65
Economy +65
Construction +6459
hey the best way is to keep playing and keep getting rape 
then you realize, that most standard strategy is already better well perfected.
any fine tuning you make makes only a little difference, and activity during mid round will let you catch up.
1) As ss attacker - gain a lot of planets in core while letting your family's hc attacker take care of any threat. Help him if needed but you can't really waste too much resources to do this.
2) Then closer to end of expo-phase. Get your planets near your cores.
3) Expand as fast as you can. I usually build only mf till i hit 100k and then I start building rfs on all new planets till it is 200% OB or 300% OB.
4) During midround - expand by picking off the weak close by fams and if you are big enough, take out the bigger guys next to you. Work one fam at a time or one system at a time. The best thing to do is not to piss off your enemy and become their top priority.
At BOR - there isn't really much to do.
Build mfs. Explroe 2-3 expos. Build more mfs. Explore 4-5 expos. Build more mfs. Explore 6 expos. Build mfs and ob with some rc. Explore and build again.
Your TO strategy doesnt make sense because your cash income is too low.
If you build cf, it will give you 5.6 cash per tick. Iron should sell around 15.
TO doesnt make sense at all because you boost your non existent income, and TO is expensive. How much would you make? Go calculate that and then factor in that TO cost almost twice as much as MF.
Go pure resources if you want to stay with the -30% income race.
If you want positive income ss race with attack, ask someone else
But yeah seriously. You have to stop sounding all great and mighty about obtaining a great strategy. There has been players before you who have spent tons of times making the strategy that we commonly used. And they all back it up with NUMBERS! you haven't shown us anything useful.
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now can SS strat be applied to a familly Sor strat to make an SS Fam? if so what would be the strat for that?
SS fams dont usually do well.
Once my banker made more iron then me. He had killed all his cf's and made mf's out of them. Iron price was above 25 so it was profitable.
what are some regular fam strats i may learn?
The banker attacker pair
One is a full banker, the other attacker obvoiusly.
bankers are usually relavons if you are going CF/RC but a lot of people nowadays go CF/TO with a 60%/40% ratio of your infrastructure. The attacker just builds a bit of everything except cf's, TO's(which he should not have in his race) and LQ's. The banker gives the attacker money for unkeep and to build while the attacker gives the banker rescourses to build. Sometimes a camaar gets put into the mix. So the first attacker gives his resourses to his banker and the Camaar which does the attacking.
This is just what I've learnt, could post more but got to go to school now
"go CF/TO with a 60%/40% ratio of your infrastructure"
No X(
CF/TO max income is 75/25, 80/20 is even better, but NOT 60/40
i think the biggest mistake of new players is trying to remain within the percentage.
well if you are rmemeber this - you should remember this rule of thumb as well!
build expensive buildings on low OB planets while building cheap buildings on high OB planets.
For example if you have a 0 OB planet and a 500% OB planet.
You would build cf or rc on the 500% OB and TO on the 0% OB.
But yeah. Go cf/to
In bor, around 10 planets of cf. Then switch to cf/rc until you hit around 300-500k income. Then never build rc again and bulid cf and to.
Aid research as needed.
sorry bout that, I was reminded about the increase TO's give you
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