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I like the changes. I looked at most the capri familys and i noticed there was at least 1 partax in almost all of them, and many had 2. Thats what the change was supposed to accomplish. There was 1-2 partaxians per family back in the day.

About the new spell. I think its pretty cool. It gives the Partax an ability to lock up opposing bankers during a war. Now an active Partax can do more than just CPFFs after they take out an opposing pop banker for the war. Having the ability to screw both is nasty.

I, however, will not be playing one this round. I KNOW! right!? LOL i wanted to attack this round. So this is a message to all the partax this round:  BE ACTIVE and smart with your spells. I wanna see how succesful this could be big_smile

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haha...the mage AA speaks!

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cool

I admit at first i was put off cuz it wasnt my idea. I wanted that tag dammit!! But the more i think about the spell, the more i like it. The 30% science keeps them flexible still. They gained and not lost anything.

btw: why keep Spy On target? Its gay! lol

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Weaking?? in what area?? he can play Resourcer and still beast he has 30% research.. not much of a weakness he has

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basically they gained alot of race points with 30% science and that extra op with just a slight decrease in their income

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but made the partax way more competitive

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The idea is that while a partax still isn't all that in a income kind of way, they are powerfull and stable (try opping a pax with 70% magic)

For those of you that say it's overpowered?
Think of this: 7 ops on a CF banker will take him down to 21% of his income...for 6 ticks...but only one banker. Considering that only partaxes can do this, you can effectively (partially) lock down one banker (per partax in your fam). And it only lasts for 6 ticks. Meaning the partax will only have 6 ops after that. An active partax can take down one cf banker to 36% of his income, for the entire duration of a war.
But really, an active partax can take 4-5 pop bankers to negative income for a longer period.

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I thought magic as defence was bugged in the past. Is that fixed?

anyway lately the popbanking partax was just not good enough, even though he usually has more wiz to protect himself. That has not really changed imo.

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the op is relatively weak imo, but a starter. now CF bankers are less efficient, maybe that will tweak the game towards more pop bankers again.

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that was just a rumour, elrohir, it never was.

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okay thats good.

second point still stands, and the op is pretty strong (it works cumulative)

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partax is not out there to be an excellent pop banking, or any income, race. that's what revalons etc. are for.

you can play quite decently with a partax, and have quite some firepower.

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Elro, the fact that it works multiplicatively means that its not that stron really. Primo described it in a good way, you can take these CF bankers down to around 20% of income for 6 ticks, or keep 1 banker there per partax. a Pop banker can be brought to 10% of his income, but the downside of him is that he will stay on reiced income for 5 days regrowing.

An interesting point now is will we see many CF partaxes, or will they ignore the income bonus an still be resourcers  there is a -30 income disadvantage compared to revs, for the same science. So it will be interesting to see really.

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Noir Cf pax will Fail

I know i would much rather get hit by the new op 7 times once for 6 ticks, than lose 20% of my income for the Whole round which in turn would be even worse.

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1 partax can kill a popper, save opps up a bit - and then go on to hold 2 cfers down to 50% of their income for the entirety of a war. 2 partaxes basically kills your opponents cash income. That's why I think it's too strong

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The only problem isn't for normal galaxies it's for a SD 3 ppl, u have ur attacker, ur resourcer and ur CF banker. Any pax can reduce the income of the CF guy to nothing forever and the fam is dead. But destroying cash or iron, or nuking to hell was the same. For a normal galaxy it's not overpowered since there is a limitation for ops, everyfam can use it or having it used against. Fams have 5-6 bankers if 1 or 2 lose income for few ticks it's not the end of the round. CF bankers will have to protect that's all. A cf banker with 80% economy that doesn't protect loses tons of income forever if his scientists are killed by a wizz opper.
Pax was not even 50% a custom wizz  before, and 50% of a custom banker. What could they do? giving them a special op was the only solution. If nuke or estorm or destroy iron wasn't existing and a race suddenly gets it everybody would say it's too powerfull...
During a war the Pax already has to kill the pop guy (wich is 50% the fam income), then the pop of the ally, then CPFF the main attackers, destroy the iron, i doubt he'll have lot of ops left for the CF guys.
If u compare the new Pax to a custom wizz opper: The custom has 20% more science, 100% speed and much more agents ops than the Pax. The Pax has enuf to do a shitty banker 20% more magic and a special op that if he has enuf spared ops won't kill the other fam...
I think this evolution is good!
Pax will have lot of fun this round opping the top CF bankers the first days of game, unless they protect themselves, but they could already be nuked or destroyed cash or research guy having his scientist killed, or first resourcer having his iron destroyed. But who was using it really? It will be the same after few rounds and ppl will adapt...

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stop being afraid of change ppl, everyone can do it to everyone, so its equal tongue

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noone said partax was gonna be a pop banking race.

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I checked a few people who are going to play Partax.

I dont see the new spell in the list, or can only a partax see the new spell?
if only a partax can see that spell its a bit misleading if you ask me. new people wouldn't know about that spell then.

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pax for SS!!! tongue

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@ Zaige, Torqez said that Adoross was going to code it in soon well before the round starts at least so yeah wont be like how it is lol..

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ah ok.

thought the changed we're already done.

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they are it just im sure adoross has to click a "initiate" button lol

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Ok my fam agreed, 10 Pax and 3 attackers. As soon a fam is above 34% ours, we reduce their CF income to nothing, destroy their iron, kill their scientists. We dont touch their pop, we just reduce their food prod on resourcers and sell them our food 0.50gc to compensate our shitty 30% income from our CF Pax!
Ahah This round is ours!

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